On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 3:47:58 PM UTC-4, NFN Smith wrote: > MozUser wrote: > > Windows 10 Home Laptop all updates > > > > Laptop up for hours. > > > > Running Seamonkey (latest) from PC startup used for newsgroups ONLY. > > > > Seamonkey super sluggish. > > > > I have two news sources with the same groups and both sources are just > > as sluggish. > > Sluggish: > > click on a newsgroup and it takes a very long time to respond. > > whirling cursor just whirls > > click on a header and the same thing with a blank posting area (no > > post test seen). > > > > Restart Seamonkey and get the same result. > > > > Process Explorer show 45% IDLE > > SEamonkey 20% > > MsMpEng 20% > > All others in fractions% > > > > So a lot of scanning is going on probably on Seamonkey because after > > many many minutes Seamonkey starts responding and MsMpEng goes to > > fractional% > > > > What is going on ? > > What is Seamonkey doing and how can I stop it ? > > What is Win10 doing and how do I stop it? > > > > There's a lot of possible bottlenecks -- some may be related directly to > Seamonkey, some related to your operating system, some may be related to > your hardware, and some could have multiple sources working against each > other simultaneously. > > Some suggestions: > > 1) There could be issues with your user profile, particularly > extensions. Try restarting Seamonkey in Safe Mode, and see what > happens. If you get better performance, then you may want to consider > permanent removal of certain extensions, or perhaps re-install of > extensions. > > BTW, don't bother with trying to uninstall/reinstall Seamonkey, unless > you have positive reason to believe that there is likely corruption to > either program binaries or the Windows registry. In Win 7 and later, > those kinds of issues are very unusual. > > 2) Is your computer slow when Seamonkey is closed, and you're > interacting with other applications? If you live in Seamonkey, it's > easy to blame Seamonkey for slowness, when it may be just the symptom of > other things that are causing performance issues.
I switched to SeaMonkey because T-bird was so slow with delays when doing simple things like moving the cursor and seeing the highlighting stop, inability to select anything, essentially the user interface freezes. At times it would take minutes for it to return. SeaMonkey does the same sorts of things, but it returns a lot more quickly. The rest of my machine is pretty smooth with few delays. Monitoring the state of the computer with Task Manager shows nothing hogging *any* resource that would slow SeaMonkey. > There's a lot of things that could be happening, such as background AV > scanning, other applications that are updating, etc. Another > possibility is memory usage, especially if you have lots of things that > auto-start when you log into Windows. It's common for installed software > to self-optimize, by setting itself to auto-start, and developers tend > to focus on optimizing their stuff, without regard to user preferences > (unless you remember to opt out). Two things that consume a *lot* of > resources are Adobe Reader and LibreOffice. If you make constant use of > either of those, it may make sense to auto-start, and you get faster > performance. But if you use only occasionally, there's no reason to > have those loaded into memory, especially if doing so inhibits other use > of the computer. These things would show up in Task Manager. When I bring my machine out of hibernate there is a malware program that saturates the disk for a minute or three. I can see that happen and the entire machine is affected. So I can't understand how anything like this would sap a single application. > Adobe notoriously "fat", and includes a lot of low-priority plugins. I > don't remember if current versions are set to auto-start, as a default. > In any case, other PDF readers, (FoxIt, Pdf-Xchange, SumatraPDF) are all > considerably less demanding on system resources. And there's lots of > small stuff that may be self-loading, as well. It's worth running > MSConfig (or perhaps CCleaner) to see what's auto-starting, and pare > that down as much as possible. Acrobat hasn't been used on this machine ever. I use lightweight PDF viewers like Sumatra and Foxit. > If you have an AV scanner that's running, you may want to tweak settings > so that it's not trying to do a full system scan at a time that you're > normally trying to get work done. If you normally shut your system down > at night, then there's a lot of processes that may be set to run > overnight, and if they don't run at the scheduled time, then they'll try > to get caught up at the first opportunity later. Sometimes, a machine > can be exceptionally busy for the first 10 or 15 minutes after being > started (or revived out of sleep or hibernate modes). AV always runs, but only does scans at night. When it causes delays it shows up in Task Manager as saturating the disk drive. > 3) Hardware can be a problem, too. The most common area of question is > RAM -- if you're running a machine with 4 GB of RAM, and you typically > use more than that, then you're going to be doing a lot of memory > swapping to hard disk, and you'll notice that in performance. Same thing with this concern. I have 16 GB of RAM. If the RAM would the problem is manifests by swapping to the hard drive saturating the drive. I see neither the drive being saturated nor the memory being used up. Right now the RAM usage is 12.4 GB. > I also find slowness issues with hard drives: > > - Check your disk usage. If your hard drive is more than 50% capacity, > it will be slower than if you have less. If you're at 2/3 capacity, > you'll notice performance issues. If the disk is at 3/4 capacity, it's > effectively "full", and you'll see significant performance issues. The > issue is a physical limitation with hard drives -- the more data that is > stored, the more work that has to be done to locate specific data (or > empty blocks). Defragging may help a little bit, but probably not a > lot. If you're in the habit of dumping the contents of your camera's SD > card onto your hard drive, or if you have a big music collection, you > need to get that stuff moved to other media. It's not that that stuff > isn't important, but your primary hard drive is not a good place to do > long-term archival storage, for stuff that you don't need every day. If > the drive is full, then there's no reason to let your archives interfere > with you daily usage. Under Windows 8 a defragging application runs automatically. Hard drive congestion is only a factor if a lot of accesses are being made to the hard drive. I see light activity and there is no special reason why the SeaMonkey apps would be more subject to the delays than any other apps. I am using the SeaMonkey browser at the moment to type this and am seeing delays just in typing that make it hard to use. I can get half a line ahead of the display. The CPU usage is below 10%, the disk usage is nearly zero. The delays I see are in the newsreader and browser as I don't use email. > Also, with disk storage, make sure you run cleanups of your disk -- > again CCleaner is a good tool. You don't need to be taking multiple GB > of space from temp files, downloaded software, browser cache, etc. > Although having a large browser cache was useful a couple of decades > ago, it really isn't necessary now. On my own installations, I normally > lower the size of the browser cache to only a fraction of the default size. > > - Integrity of the hard drive -- I've seen several machines that are > chronically slow, even after I've done significant performance tuning. > In each of those cases, it turns out that the hard drive was in the > process of failing, and checking the drives' SMART status revealed > relocated sectors. In each case, after I replaced the hard drive, > performance issues vanished. > > > Although it's not impossible that your problems are Seamonkey-specific > (especially something with your user profile), I'm inclined to believe > that Seamonkey is probably only the symptom of other problems, rather > than the cause. Get the other problems fixed, and Seamonkey will likely > be happy. The common denominator is T-Bird and SeaMonkey (which have much common code and architecture) as well as the fact that it is seen in both SeaMonkey apps I use. If there were general problems with my machine I would expect to see it manifest in other apps. -- Rick _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
