On 12/3/2017 9:19 PM, cmcadams wrote:
> Adding to what NoOp wrote, a little while after my last post I was browsing 
> walmart.com and SM 1.49.1 Win began behaving as he described. Unresponsive, 
> twirlies 
> and intermittent white-outs, all without outright crashing. CPU was high, 
> memory was 
> at 1.1-1.2GB.
> 
> So, walmart might be a place to go for some trouble.
> 
> Craig

Seems to have no special sight that causes the problem, at least not one
that I can find consistant. It does seem to happen if I've left it idle
for awhile (10 minutes or more). Screenshot of taskmanager:
https://s10.postimg.org/5hoqz8scp/IMG_20171227_162451731.jpg

As mentioned previously, it does not hang in linux, only windows (they
are identical profiles). I've restarted with a Windows process debugger
& process activity logger so maybe I can get additional info. (I've not
used these before as I'm only familiar with linux debugging tools, so
hopefully I've got them set correctly).


> 
> 
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 12/3/2017 11:57 AM, cmcadams wrote:
>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>> 2.49.1 and now the development build .2 was/is the most stable release I 
>>>> ever used so
>>>> YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> All depends on your browsing habits, if you keep countless tabs open, how 
>>>> often you
>>>> close the browser and a thousand other variables. It might also be some 
>>>> shitty java
>>>> script only activated when the website sees a never Firefox version or 
>>>> even bad
>>>> browser sniffing.
>>>
>>> No countless tabs, often just one. I don't run the browser continuously.
>>>
>>>> I suggest using a script and adblocker if you don't already do so. If it 
>>>> still
>>>> freezes it should always do it on the same pages then.
>>>
>>> uBlock Origin. Noscript became impossible, making things work that I needed 
>>> to have
>>> work on a specific site became a time-wasting game.
>>>
>>>> And if you did go back from 2.51 your profile might have corruption too. 
>>>> Check for
>>>> indexDB or storage errors on startup. If you see some you need to clean it 
>>>> first.
>>>
>>> I haven't been playing pioneer, lately, and no explicit startup errors.
>>>
>>>> Just back up your profile and try it. It might not work for you or it 
>>>> might be
>>>> better. You won't know until you try it out.
>>>
>>> OP asked if 2.49.1 ever froze. It has, but not often enough to make it 
>>> unusable. It
>>> can go for prolonged periods without crashing at all. It has crashed under
>>> stress...for example, SM 2.49.1 popped like a soap bubble when I tried 
>>> sending a
>>> particularly enormous email loaded with animated GIFs. Weirdly, that 
>>> happened both
>>> when I attached the files AND when I then tried sending by reference. (In 
>>> the latter
>>> case the email DID at least go through.) But it has also crashed when 
>>> absolutely
>>> nothing out of the ordinary is going on, when it will go into its "white 
>>> out"
>>> routine, as described, and I have to kill and restart. No rhyme or reason 
>>> I've been
>>> able to spot. Just a guess: script! I will remember your backup and indexDB 
>>> advice.
>>>
>>> Craig
>> 
>> Ditto.
>> 
>> Unfortunately it typically doesn't crash, it just freezes so no new
>> crash reports are generated.
>> 
>> My last crash on 2.49.1 was on 11/15 & that was caused by
>> hang | NtUserMsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx | user32.dll@0x5d3ed
>> That seems to have been caused by a plugin:
>> plugin (web) Foxit PhantomPDF Plugin for Mozilla Version: 2.2.7.818
>> Filename: npFoxitPhantomPDFPlugin.dll
>> Which was removed following the crash. SM 2.49.1 Windows has frozen at
>> least 4 times since. When I look at the Windows task manager it just
>> shows 'Not Responding'.
>> 
>> I'll see if I can get some repeat site/page to troubleshoot... in the
>> interim it's Thunderbird & Other Browser time (on Windows - linux is
>> just fine) until I can figure out the issue. Thanks for all the responses.
>> 
>> 
>> <snipped>
>> 
> 

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