On 4/13/2020 2:19 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>
>> We are still not sure if the third option dropping Firefox from the UA
>> is useful. Imho too many sites break without showing Firefox.
>>
>> Personally I think Firefox plus SeaMonkey show be the default and
>> "Strict Firefox" the only other choice. For sites disliking both a
>> domain override via about:config or a ua switcher would probably be best.
>
> I think that's probably the best approach. I've seen too many sites
> that are are aggressive in demanding *only* Chrome, Firefox, Safari or
> IE. I think IE is getting replaced with Edge in that demand, and
> occasionally I see sites that will permit Opera.
>
> Most often, it seems to be financial institutions that behave that way,
> and it's my opinion that despite wording, their real agenda is to
> minimize loads on tech support people. Thus, if you're interacting with
> a site's support people, they say that they will support Firefox only at
> v 60 or later. It's not a question of browser capacity, so much as
> knowing the exact navigation path to critical settings. Therefore, if
> you tell them that you have a Firefox-derived browser with all the
> necessary capacities, they'll cut the conversation off with "Firefox or
> nothing", because they don't want to deal with the different UI of
> another browser. Seamonkey isn't the only one with this problem, but
> Pale Moon and Waterfox, as well.
>
> That said, I don't know if users of Chromium-derived browsers have this
> kind of issue.
>
>
> As for spoofing, where we are currently is kind of quandary.
> about:config settings are certainly doable, but kind of inflexible,
> especially if you have to do them on a per-site basis. I have strong
> liking for doing it via extension, but PrefBar is no longer supported
> (even though it's still available for download from the developer,
> although not listed in the archive of legacy extensions). In Firefox,
> I've found several extensions that do spoofing, but those are all
> WebExtension, and thus, not usable until the eventual support of
> WebExtension in Seamonkey.
>
> Smith
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Besides using PrefBar to toggle between disabling (my degault) and
enabling "Advertise Firefox compatiblity", I also use PrefBar's "User
Agent" menu list to spoof other browsers. I occasionally update the UA
strings from the log of visits to my own Web site.
Currently, I can spoof the following (but I rarely need to do so):
Firefox 68
Edge 18.17763
Internet Explorer 11
Opera 12.17
Chrome 79.0.3945
Safari 605.1.15
I also can spoof with the following UA strings:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5, NOT Firefox/68.0
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0
(NOT - it's really SeaMonkey/2.49.5! Stop browser sniffing)
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