I keep hearing this "too much memory", and let me tell you, folks.  I
run an old-timey AMD 400 and 192 megs of ram.  I leave my machine
running for days with freenet java daemons running constantly and this
is my memory usage:
             total       used       free     shared    buffers    
cached
Mem:        191064     187444       3620          0      11772     
27172
-/+ buffers/cache:     148500      42564
Swap:       385520     198376     187144
Total used, including swap: 187+198=385+ megs... not too bad, I'd say. 
If I upgraded to 512megs I'd have room to spare.  What I have noticed is
that all yous who have mem problems are running some version of Winderz.
No more comments, 'cept, SuSE Linux is available for free download at
www.suse.com.


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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:27:55 +0000
> From: Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
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> Toad wrote:
> > 2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
> > This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
> > CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
> > or similar.
> 
> Um, yes - we do, dodo.
> 
> Ian.
> 
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> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:32:11 -0600
> From: David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064
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> | Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko or
> 
> No, it wouldn't.  Gecko is for rendering (and I'd guess that WebKit is
> also).  It takes html and renders it.  Freenet currently uses html, and
> will probably continue to use it (at least for browsing).
> 
> It doesn't use http, of course, but adding a freenet://  URL style
> wouldn't change things too much, since you need the key first anyway --
> it's going to be a long address no matter what.  All that would do is
> allow for URLs to be to somewhere other than localhost, which can
> already be done (not sure if it has) by the server itself.  This is
> better, because it doesn't require modifying a browser, and so far
> there's only one server.
> 
> And if you wanted to do such a thing, or the "privacy features
> auto-set", you would do it as a browser extension -- notice when it's a
> freenet url, and don't do things like caching it.  For this, you'd
> probably just specify a particular host:port that is a "freenet url".
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:52:09 +0000
> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > Toad wrote:
> > >2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
> > >This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
> > >CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
> > >or similar.
> > 
> > Um, yes - we do, dodo.
> 
> I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
> bandwidth usage.
> > 
> > Ian.
> -- 
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> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:09:36 +0100
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> Subject: [freenet-support] potential-bug - report
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> hi!
> sometimes i get this message in my recent-logs:
> ===
> 
> Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 20 in queue, 2634 millis since
> enqueued last item, 1988650 maximum waits so far - could indicate
> serious JVM bug. Please report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] along with
> JVM and OS/kernel.
> 
> 
> 
> -- Architecture and Operating System   
> Architecture                            x86
> Available processors                    1
> Operating System                        Windows XP
> OS Version                              5.1
> 
> -- Java Virtual Machine        
> JVM Vendor                              Sun Microsystems Inc.
> JVM Name                                Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
> JVM Version                             1.4.1_02-b06
> 
> -- Memory Allocation   
> Maximum memory the JVM will allocate    192 MiB
> Memory currently allocated by the JVM   130.112 KiB
> Memory in use                           88.173.880 Bytes
> Estimated memory used by logger         None
> Unused allocated memory                 45.058.872 Bytes
> 
> -- Data Store  
> Maximum size                            16.000 MiB
> Used space                              13.332.364 KiB
> Free space                              3.051.636 KiB
> Percent used                            81
> Total keys                              48097
> Space used by temp files                226.276 KiB
> Maximum space for temp files            5.592.405.500 Bytes
> Most recent file access time            Thu Jan 29 16:04:54 CET 2004
> Least recent file access time           Thu May 22 19:38:56 CEST 2003
> 
> -- Transports  
> Current IPv4 address                    212.202.207.168
> Current IPv4 port                       44294
> ARK sequence number                     32
> Last ARK sequence number inserted       32
> 
> -- Thread Pool 
> Total pooled threads                    16
> Available pooled threads                7
> Pooled threads in use                   9
> 
> -- Pooled Thread Consumers     
> Class                                                           Threads used
> freenet.interfaces.LocalNIOInterface$ConnectionShell            3
> freenet.node.states.data.DataStateInitiator                     4
> freenet.node.states.data.TrailerWriteCallbackMessage:true:true  2
>        
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:01:41 -0800
> From: Nick Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [freenet-support] Serious JVM bug.
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I received the following error message on the console where Fred was running.
> 
> Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 16 in queue, 2463 millis since enqueued last 
> item, 5507 maximum waits so far - could indicate serious JVM bug. Please report to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] along with JVM and OS/kernel.
> 
> System Information:
> 
> Node Version
> 0.5
> 
> Protocol Version
> STABLE-1.49
> 
> Build Number
> 5065
> 
> CVS Revision
> 1.90.2.50.2.91
> 
> $ java -version
> java version "1.4.2_03"
> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_03-b02)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_03-b02, mixed mode)
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux <name omitted> 2.4.20-28_36.rh9.atsmp #1 SMP Mon Jan 5 22:54:59 EST 2004 i686 
> i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> $ free
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:       1030304     480996     549308          0      77448     200248
> -/+ buffers/cache:     203300     827004
> Swap:      1052248          0    1052248
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:32:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Sheldon Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
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> > > 2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
> > > This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
> > > CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
> > > or similar.
> >
> > Um, yes - we do, dodo.
> >
> > Ian.
> 
> Before anybody thinks Ian wroke up on the wrong side of the bed, dodo is
> the name of the machine. :)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:21:13 +1300
> From: Phillip Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> On 31/01/2004, at 12:32 PM, David Masover wrote:
> 
> > | Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko 
> > or
> >
> > No, it wouldn't.  Gecko is for rendering (and I'd guess that WebKit is
> > also).  It takes html and renders it.  Freenet currently uses html, and
> > will probably continue to use it (at least for browsing).
> 
> I am quite aware of what WebKit and Gecko do.
> 
> > It doesn't use http, of course, but adding a freenet://  URL style
> > wouldn't change things too much, since you need the key first anyway --
> > it's going to be a long address no matter what.  All that would do is
> > allow for URLs to be to somewhere other than localhost, which can
> > already be done (not sure if it has) by the server itself.  This is
> > better, because it doesn't require modifying a browser, and so far
> > there's only one server.
> 
> Or 192.168.0.1 in my case.
> 
> > And if you wanted to do such a thing, or the "privacy features
> > auto-set", you would do it as a browser extension -- notice when it's a
> > freenet url, and don't do things like caching it.  For this, you'd
> > probably just specify a particular host:port that is a "freenet url".
> 
> And how many browsers do that? Sure, I'm not sure about writing a 
> plugin, since most of the time they can only add processing for 
> different MIME types, whereas a different browser using a freenet:// 
> protocol could connect through FCP and do things like simplify 
> splitfiles, insertions and the like with an interface that normal users 
> could use. Sure, there's things such as fiw, but it's not the easiest 
> of things to use. Having the whole feature set in one application would 
> make it a lot nicer.
> 
> --
> Phillip Hutchings
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.sitharus.com/
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:27:19 +0000
> From: Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
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> Toad wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > 
> >>Toad wrote:
> >>
> >>>2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
> >>>This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
> >>>CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
> >>>or similar.
> >>Um, yes - we do, dodo.
> > I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
> > bandwidth usage.
> 
> It has 15GB/month IIRC.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:54:03 +0000
> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:27:19AM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > Toad wrote:
> > >On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > >
> > >>Toad wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
> > >>>This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
> > >>>CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
> > >>>or similar.
> > >>Um, yes - we do, dodo.
> > >I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
> > >bandwidth usage.
> > 
> > It has 15GB/month IIRC.
> 
> I doubt that would be enough for full watchme functionality. It'd be
> fine for node registration etc though.
> > 
> > Ian.

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