I run freenet on Windows from command line and JRE caps memory usage at 64MB. And FreeNet still works great. When I look at memory used in the Environment on the gateway, it doesn't even use all of 64MB. I have 256MB total.

Nikita.

Michael wrote:

I keep hearing this "too much memory", and let me tell you, folks. I
run an old-timey AMD 400 and 192 megs of ram. I leave my machine
running for days with freenet java daemons running constantly and this
is my memory usage:
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 191064 187444 3620 0 11772 27172
-/+ buffers/cache: 148500 42564
Swap: 385520 198376 187144
Total used, including swap: 187+198=385+ megs... not too bad, I'd say. If I upgraded to 512megs I'd have room to spare. What I have noticed is
that all yous who have mem problems are running some version of Winderz.
No more comments, 'cept, SuSE Linux is available for free download at
www.suse.com.



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  1. Re: Request for help (Ian Clarke)
  2. Re: Way to much RAM! Build 5064 (David Masover)
  3. Re: Request for help (Toad)
  4. potential-bug - report (Tobias Bradtke)
  5. Serious JVM bug. (Nick Austin)
  6. Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
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  7. Re: Way to much RAM! Build 5064 (Phillip Hutchings)
  8. Re: Request for help (Ian Clarke)
  9. Re: Request for help (Toad)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:27:55 +0000
From: Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Toad wrote:


2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
or similar.


Um, yes - we do, dodo.

Ian.

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:32:11 -0600
From: David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064
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| Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko or


No, it wouldn't.  Gecko is for rendering (and I'd guess that WebKit is
also).  It takes html and renders it.  Freenet currently uses html, and
will probably continue to use it (at least for browsing).

It doesn't use http, of course, but adding a freenet://  URL style
wouldn't change things too much, since you need the key first anyway --
it's going to be a long address no matter what.  All that would do is
allow for URLs to be to somewhere other than localhost, which can
already be done (not sure if it has) by the server itself.  This is
better, because it doesn't require modifying a browser, and so far
there's only one server.

And if you wanted to do such a thing, or the "privacy features
auto-set", you would do it as a browser extension -- notice when it's a
freenet url, and don't do things like caching it.  For this, you'd
probably just specify a particular host:port that is a "freenet url".
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:52:09 +0000
From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Request for help
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:


Toad wrote:


2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
or similar.


Um, yes - we do, dodo.


I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
bandwidth usage.


Ian.


--
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:09:36 +0100
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hi!
sometimes i get this message in my recent-logs:
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Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 20 in queue, 2634 millis since
enqueued last item, 1988650 maximum waits so far - could indicate
serious JVM bug. Please report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] along with
JVM and OS/kernel.



-- Architecture and Operating System Architecture x86
Available processors 1
Operating System Windows XP
OS Version 5.1


-- Java Virtual Machine JVM Vendor Sun Microsystems Inc.
JVM Name Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
JVM Version 1.4.1_02-b06


-- Memory Allocation Maximum memory the JVM will allocate 192 MiB
Memory currently allocated by the JVM 130.112 KiB
Memory in use 88.173.880 Bytes
Estimated memory used by logger None
Unused allocated memory 45.058.872 Bytes


-- Data Store Maximum size 16.000 MiB
Used space 13.332.364 KiB
Free space 3.051.636 KiB
Percent used 81
Total keys 48097
Space used by temp files 226.276 KiB
Maximum space for temp files 5.592.405.500 Bytes
Most recent file access time Thu Jan 29 16:04:54 CET 2004
Least recent file access time Thu May 22 19:38:56 CEST 2003


-- Transports Current IPv4 address 212.202.207.168
Current IPv4 port 44294
ARK sequence number 32
Last ARK sequence number inserted 32


-- Thread Pool Total pooled threads 16
Available pooled threads 7
Pooled threads in use 9


-- Pooled Thread Consumers Class Threads used
freenet.interfaces.LocalNIOInterface$ConnectionShell 3
freenet.node.states.data.DataStateInitiator 4
freenet.node.states.data.TrailerWriteCallbackMessage:true:true 2


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:01:41 -0800
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Subject: [freenet-support] Serious JVM bug.
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I received the following error message on the console where Fred was running.

Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 16 in queue, 2463 millis since enqueued last item, 5507 maximum waits so far - could indicate serious JVM bug. Please report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] along with JVM and OS/kernel.

System Information:

Node Version
0.5

Protocol Version
STABLE-1.49

Build Number
5065

CVS Revision
1.90.2.50.2.91

$ java -version
java version "1.4.2_03"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_03-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_03-b02, mixed mode)

$ uname -a
Linux <name omitted> 2.4.20-28_36.rh9.atsmp #1 SMP Mon Jan 5 22:54:59 EST 2004 i686 
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

$ free
            total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       1030304     480996     549308          0      77448     200248
-/+ buffers/cache:     203300     827004
Swap:      1052248          0    1052248

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2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
or similar.


Um, yes - we do, dodo.

Ian.


Before anybody thinks Ian wroke up on the wrong side of the bed, dodo is
the name of the machine. :)



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:21:13 +1300
From: Phillip Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064
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On 31/01/2004, at 12:32 PM, David Masover wrote:




| Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko or

No, it wouldn't. Gecko is for rendering (and I'd guess that WebKit is
also). It takes html and renders it. Freenet currently uses html, and
will probably continue to use it (at least for browsing).


I am quite aware of what WebKit and Gecko do.



It doesn't use http, of course, but adding a freenet:// URL style
wouldn't change things too much, since you need the key first anyway --
it's going to be a long address no matter what. All that would do is
allow for URLs to be to somewhere other than localhost, which can
already be done (not sure if it has) by the server itself. This is
better, because it doesn't require modifying a browser, and so far
there's only one server.


Or 192.168.0.1 in my case.



And if you wanted to do such a thing, or the "privacy features
auto-set", you would do it as a browser extension -- notice when it's a
freenet url, and don't do things like caching it. For this, you'd
probably just specify a particular host:port that is a "freenet url".


And how many browsers do that? Sure, I'm not sure about writing a plugin, since most of the time they can only add processing for different MIME types, whereas a different browser using a freenet:// protocol could connect through FCP and do things like simplify splitfiles, insertions and the like with an interface that normal users could use. Sure, there's things such as fiw, but it's not the easiest of things to use. Having the whole feature set in one application would make it a lot nicer.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:27:19 +0000
From: Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Toad wrote:


On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:



Toad wrote:



2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
or similar.


Um, yes - we do, dodo.


I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
bandwidth usage.


It has 15GB/month IIRC.

Ian.

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:54:03 +0000
From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:27:19AM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:


Toad wrote:


On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:



Toad wrote:



2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
or similar.


Um, yes - we do, dodo.


I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
bandwidth usage.


It has 15GB/month IIRC.


I doubt that would be enough for full watchme functionality. It'd be
fine for node registration etc though.


Ian.



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