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Toad wrote: | On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:33:30AM -0500, David Masover wrote: | |>Unfortunately, I can't work on this at all right now. My freenet node |>looks fine, only I get a connection close from FProxy the instant I try |>connecting -- that is, 0 bytes sent/recieved from netcat, "The document |>contains no data" from Firefox. | | | Ouch. Anything in the logs? Tried restarting? What build?
Only about 20 times, how do I check the build without a working FProxy?
Trying to update to latest stable: Usually in the logs, it at least tells me something like "starting Freenet, Build XXXXX"
Now, I get a java.io.IOException as the first log message.
Takes more than 3 mins for port 8888 to start listening. When it does, wget reports "connection reset by peer".
Deleting everything in /var/freenet except seednodes.ref, restarting...
It's been 5 minutes. Log (/var/freenet/freenet.log) is still empty. Still not responding.
Some time later, I check back, and -- yet again -- Connection reset by peer.
For debugging purposes (I'm smart enough to remove this once I get freenet working), I'm going to leave this atrocity running overnight, with logs and conf files online:
http://slaphack.com/freenet.log http://slaphack.com/freenet.conf
| |>| of the user. If a non-anonymous search solves one part without |>| affecting the other, what's the harm of it? |> |>None, as long as it's _absolutely_clear_ which parts are solved. If you |>make the publisher anonymous but the readers known, you don't want |>someone saying "ooh, freenet" and then using it to visit Porn of Love |>from an office computer. Or worse. Make huge, bold, red warnings. | | | Hehe. That's their own silly fault ;). But yes, warnings probably a good | idea.
Yes, and yes. n00bishness should be no barrier to revolution.
| Google keeps the entire index in RAM.
*jaw drops*
You learn something new every day.
|>[...] |>| to reach the users of freenet and hushmail; I want it to |>| reach the huge and clueless masses who watch CNN and use |>| hotmail. And I also want to protect my anonymity damn well. |> |>What about implementing a freenet client as a Java applet, thus allowing |>"freenet gateways"? You'd need that (no _percieved_ download/install of |>software) in order to reach these huge and clueless masses. | | | Not possible. Java applets are not able to connect to servers other than
Are not allowed to. They seem to be able to, if the user clicks "yes" on a "do you trust these people?" dialog box.
| running a public proxy. However tens of millions of lusers actually know | how to install software.
Sometimes the problem is "knowing how". Sometimes it's "being allowed to". Not everyone owns their own computer. Of course, if you don't own your own computer, how can you trust it? One-way trust. Suppose my bro trusts me, but I don't trust him, I have root, and he wants Freenet. Or suppose someone doesn't care about their own anonymity, but wants Freenet on a public internet terminal. The possibilities are endless...
Most end-user types I know don't ever upgrade their software as long as it seems to work, and few upgrade even when it stops working -- they reinstall. Web interface solves all of that, as long as browser cache / web proxies behave themselves.
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