On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 11:21:51PM +0200, Newsbyte wrote:
> As some of us have already discussed on IIP, the question becomes urgent
> what to do for the near future. As the donationpage shows, we are in need
> for some extra financial input, and thus we should contemplate on the how to
> do this best.

Yes. Although we may have anything up to several thousand dollars in the 
bank.. Ian has been trying to get hold of the trustee for some time...
> 
> Now, I've said before that we're long overdue for the 0.6, but still, it's
> also true that currently, it isn't much better performing (as a whole) then
> the 0.5 version of the past year. Many changes have been made, but no real
> progress (from the viewpoint of a newbie user) has come out of it, as yet.

I don't know about that. I installed a new stable node today, within an
hour or so I could get many pages...
> 
> Now, with the simulations, I feel we have a tool that could finally help us
> in a way that surpasses the haphazard way untill now, and hopefully that
> will be even more stimualted with a testnetwork, in the not-to-distant
> future. 

Quite possibly (on both counts).

> I have reasonable hope, thus, that, with further improvements such
> as the small-chunks and the tools to check performance, we might actually go
> forward rather quickly, compared to the past year(s). It therefor begs the
> question, whether it would not be wise to wait a bit longer still, untill we
> really have something that is noticable better.

I think so.
> 
> This all depends on whether we can afford it, and here again, a suggestion
> of toad(?) gives us an alternative. apart from being useful tools for the
> development process, the graphs made, are also very interesting and visually
> appealing. It is therefor suggested, and IMHO a good idea, to use these
> graphs, and the simulator, as a slashdot-article. 

And an appeal for funds. :)

> If we made a nice page
> with graphs and some summary explanation, and we offer the simulator for
> d/l, preferably with a howto so ppl can easily try it out, 

Probably a good idea..

> I think this will
> cause enough attraction to give us some additional flux in regard to
> interest and finances.
> 
> The financial and other gains would be substantial and form a very nice
> in-between untill the 0.6 version is ready, and it wouldn't cost us all that
> much in time and effort, in comparison.
> 
> So, I would agree with this option, make something (page?) interesting
> of/with the graphs, make the simulator a bit more user-friendly, and clean
> up some bugs on the current stable build, but nothing too vast...and bring
> it on slashdot as soon as possible.

Agreed. I want to build a slightly more convincing simulator first, i.e.
one which simulates something more sophisticated than 100 fully
connected nodes, although Ian and Oskar's more-theoretical results could
fill the gap if we needed to launch an appeal immediately. But the basic
principle is solid.
> 
> Once we've gained some financial leeway and the pressure is in that regard
> has diminuished, we can continue with the 0.6 full speed. Maybe, in a few
> months, we can then bring out a 0.6 that IS, indeed, better then any current
> 0.5 build!
> 
> My two euros
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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