On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:01:54PM +0000, Bob wrote:
> Duana Saskia STANLEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > It was mentioned a year ago that Freenet doesn't yet work with Kaffe - is 
> > this still the case?
> 
> AFAIK it still doesn't. The issue is lack of working NIO support,
> which freenet
> uses pretty heavily. Toad said a while ago that this was pretty much 
> the only obstacle, so if it starts working in one Free JVM then the others
> should follow.

Except for GCJ, which has some other big issues. 4.1 should work though
- if Classpath gains working NIO support. Otherwise, 0.7 won't use
NIO...
> 
> > I'm having problems installing Kaffe so I don't 
> > know.  I'll try Blackdown since you mentioned that works.  Any other java 
> > VMs you can recommend?
> 
> Other than Sun's I think that's your only choice currently :^/
>  
> > The problem I'm trying to avoid is the java threads showing up as 
> > individual processes under ps on redhat.  Apparently you can get a java 
> > program to have just one listing in ps if you use some flag for some 
> > threads-library on kernels greater than 2.6.  It's a bit over my head, 
> > but anyway the latest sun JVM doesn't seem to do this.  If anyone knows 
> > anything about this obscure issue, any info would be much appreciated.
> 
> Umm, and this matters to you why? Signalling the "parent" process in 
> freenet.pid should affect all of them :^)
> 
> How threading is handled is an interplay between the JVM and the host system,
> you can also influence it (mostly for backwards compatability when the default
> behaviour breaks) with the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL environment variable which you've
> probably noticed start-freenet.sh does for known problematic cases. I don't
> claim to really understand it either. Blackdown can do either "green threads"
> (userspace) or "native threads" (kernelspace but higher context switch cost /
> footprint) but this is arcane stuff which it seems you shouldn't mess with
> unless you know what you're doing, e.g running huge clustered simulations. The
> docs aren't up to date on it either.
> (http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/docs/support/faq-release/
> FAQ-java-linux-4.html#ss4.2)
> 
> Bob
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