I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. ?It's fine the way it is. ?It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for the 0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it "unsupported" while directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense. ?The 0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the unstable version, just like it was done in the past. ?If users ask questions, they should be directed to the wiki. ?Why the big push to get new users on the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage?
On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We don't have a big enough team to actively support both. > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote: > > I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen > > take a working application and push it aside, while directing new users > > to an alpha version. The way it would normally be done is listing > > Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported" version, > > and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development. New users would > > opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha version > > while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange. > > > > On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta > > > test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5. > > > > > > You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try > > > freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's > > > think about what would motivate someone... > > > > > > I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours reading > > > over the technical jargon. > > > It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of crap > > > that does not work. > > > > > > Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this > > > complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on, it > > > finally started working. > > > > > > The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out once, > > > was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and content. > > > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > > > If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an > > > unstable beta test, > > > why would anyone new bother to join the community? > > > > > > Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and computers > > > to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application that > > > completely hogs your computer's resources? > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user friendly. > > > A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's actually > > > going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like myself > > > will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the configurations, > > > frost, fuqid, etc. > > > > > > If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and > > > install program without all the technical jargon, you would double or > > > triple your user base. > > > > > > The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to be > > > peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are there > > > that don't know about freenet already? > > > > > > So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would be > > > wiser to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta > > > testing, and create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7 is > > > working. Even I would be willing to help create this website, and I'm > > > sure many other people also would volunteer. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Van > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support at freenetproject.org > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or > > mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe