It has no opennet. As far as I'm concerned, it's useless.

On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel <ortwin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wrong, it works quite well so it's functional. It's not completed but it
> needs users to progress.
>
>
> On 8/24/06, urza9814 at gmail.com <urza9814 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> 0.7 isn't a stable version either. It's a not nearly completed, far
> from functional version.
>
> On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel <ortwin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 0.5 isn't a stable version. It's an outdated version that many people
> > happen to use. Of course you can keep using 0.5 and slowly watch it
> > die, or even try to keep it alive. But the freenet team wants you to
> > populate 0.7 so they can improve it. It's unfortunate that it scares
> > away a few users too lazy to run 0.7 but they will come back once it's
> > better and stable.
> >
> > On 8/22/06, an ominous cow herd
> <freenetproject at americancheeze.com > wrote:
> > > I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the
> way it
> > > is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for
> the
> > > 0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it "unsupported"
> while
> > > directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense.
> The
> > > 0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the
> > > unstable version, just like it was done in the past. If users ask
> questions,
> > > they should be directed to the wiki. Why the big push to get new users
> on
> > > the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage?
> > >
> > > On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > > We don't have a big enough team to actively support both.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote:
> > > > > I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've
> seen
> > > > > take a working application and push it aside, while directing new
> users
> > > > > to an alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing
> > > > > Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported"
> version,
> > > > > and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development.  New users
> would
> > > > > opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha
> version
> > > > > while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the
> beta
> > > > > > test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to
> try
> > > > > > freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test.
> Let's
> > > > > > think about what would motivate someone...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours
> reading
> > > > > > over the technical jargon.
> > > > > > It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of
> crap
> > > > > > that does not work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this
> > > > > > complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on,
> it
> > > > > > finally started working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out
> once,
> > > > > > was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and
> content.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's the problem:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an
> > > > > > unstable beta test,
> > > > > > why would anyone new bother to join the community?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and
> computers
> > > > > > to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application
> that
> > > > > > completely hogs your computer's resources?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user
> friendly.
> > > > > > A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's
> actually
> > > > > > going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like
> myself
> > > > > > will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the
> configurations,
> > > > > > frost, fuqid, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and
> > > > > > install program without all the technical jargon, you would double
> or
> > > > > > triple your user base.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to
> be
> > > > > > peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are
> there
> > > > > > that don't know about freenet already?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would
> be
> > > > > > wiser to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta
> > > > > > testing, and create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7
> is
> > > > > > working. Even I would be willing to help create this website, and
> I'm
> > > > > > sure many other people also would volunteer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Van
> > > > >
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