Okay.  I can understand duplicating records and transferring payments would
work.  Fortunately, as you said , it's not necessary in this situation.

I'm wishing I'd logged on to this support months ago though, because I'm
gleaning so much information from all the various problems people have.
Questions I hadn't had yet, but probably would have had sooner or later.
But also, the notes back and forth help give a more rounded understanding of
the program.

Yes, I'd read the ebase administrators manuel all the way through once, and
then parts of several times.  But there's a lot I either missed or wasn't
addressed in the manual.

Thanks to those of you that are so willing and able to help out others!

Lisa


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:28 PM
To: TechRocks Support
Subject: [support] RE: double record numbers


Gary, good catch. I see that there was indeed only one dupe record
with payments in this case. If I had to recover from a more serious
situation, I would duplicate the troublesome records to create
another record with a valid record number then use the transfer
transactions function to move the payments and other related records
to the new record.

>A Warning - Be careful deleting records with duplicate record numbers.
Since
>FileMaker doesn't know the difference between the two Name records, as you
>have already noticed, it will happily delete any and all related records
>which are set up for automatic deletion with the parent record. This
applies
>to *either* of the duplicated records.
>
>So let's say you have a legitimate record for Ms. A with 2 dues payments
and
>a large contribution. Then you add Mr. B, with the auto-numbering
mistakenly
>assigning it the same number. Now Mr. B also appears to have made the same
>payments, even though he really just bought a bumper sticker. When you
>delete Mr. B's record in the Names file, it may also blow away Ms. A's
>payments, since they are linked by the same Record Number. I'd suggest you
>check. It may be necessary to re-enter all the payments (and any other
>details) for the original record after deleting the dupe.
>
>There are sometimes easier ways of handling this if you know about the
child
>records before deleting. In this case, the ebase programmers seem to have
>done such a great job of enforcing the integrity of the Record Numbers that
>adding back related records appears to be the easiest way. Dave, have I
>missed some clever workaround?
>
>Gary Bogue
>
>>  Subject: RE: double record numbers
>>  From: "Roland and Lisa Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:00:35 -0700
>>  X-Message-Number: 1
>>
>>  Thanks Dave,
>>
>>  That was exactly the problem and I have it all fixed now.
>>
>>  Now just to clarify;  I don't see an export function in the ebase
program.
>>  A function for sending all or part of the names and addresses to someone
>>  else for use in a mailing.
>>
>>  So although I am not to use the Filemaker IMPORT function on the drop
down
>>  menu, I still need to use the associated EXPORT function to send stuff
>>  out,
>>  right ?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  Lisa
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Dave Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:45 AM
>>  To: TechRocks Support
>>  Subject: [support] Re: double record numbers
>>
>>
>>  Record numbers are auto-entered when a new record is created. The
>>  next number to be used is set in the field definition and updated if
>>  you add a new record, BUT when you import records you need to re-set
>>  this index to a record number higher than the largest in your import
>>  set. If you use the ebase import routine, this gets done for you.
>>  Apparently you used the FileMaker menu item to import.
>>
>>  So, delete the records with duplicate numbers. Find the highest
>>  record number (by sorting the records by record number, for example).
>  > Go to the field definition for Record Number and check the Auto-Enter
>  > tab. You'll see that it's checked to auto-enter, increment one. You
>  > should set the Next Number to one higher than the highest record
>>  number in your file.
>>
>>  Now when you enter new records, the will be numbered higher than the
>>  ones already in your file.
>>
>>
>
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