another idea is to monitor everything whats going on
on the firewall with sa(r) and accounting,
but i don't know if sa and accounting is shipped
with the pfsense......

2008/12/21 Michael Schuh <[email protected]>

>
>
> 2008/12/21 RB <[email protected]>
>
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:34, Michael Schuh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Oh not to understand as "its limit the packets per second", but you get
>> not
>> > all the time answers from the isps-gateway, because it need proxyarp.
>>
>> So your particular ISP expected to see the L2 addresses for your
>> public IPs - they didn't route your subnet to you.  You probably never
>
>
> hmm, it is a little more complicated in my case, and it have in my case
> nott really to do with the ISP's routing, more with active components
> between the router (ISP) and my firewall. This component routes/bridges
> only traffic that have valid arp-adresses. For me, in my case it shows
> like a config-issue or an bug in this components.
>
>
>> saw unsolicited inbound L3 traffic, but if return packets came back
>> before their ARP cache associating the L3 address to your pfSense's L2
>> address timed out, you'd see the packets.  Add TCP retries on top of
>> that, and you see intermittent but slow traffic.
>
>
> Not only, that have maked it hard for me to find the problem.
> and we not only have TCP-Traffic......
>
>
>>
>> It's possible Lenny is seeing this, but since he's seeing as much
>> traffic as he is (15kpps), I find it less probable.  Plausible, but
>> individual streams would likely be much less than the 170Mbps he's
>> quoting.  It's easily checked for - a packet capture on the test
>> clients looking for high retransmits will either prove or disprove the
>> issue.
>
>
> Thought. That could be, but we do nothing know about the configuration and
> components
> behind the scenes (on ISP Side from lenny).
> In other words nothing is impossible....and this could be a simple try and
> error,
> thats fast made, also why not spend the 5 Mins to test ist?
> It is then clear if it is it or not. to be or not to be :-D know or not to
> know......
>
> ok they more information we get so the possibility of proxyarp issue get
> from very small to null....
>
> On such suspect errors, believe on nothing, double check all the
> possibilities......
> my rules.... :-D
>
> Another thing is, are the servers and clients ready to deliver such a
> spreaded (many conects?)
> bandwith?
>
> Lenny: is your limitation limited to TCP or to TCP/UDP/ICMP
> whats going on with GRE-Tunnels par example? or speech it is protocol
> related?
>
> My guess yes and no. My guess with udp/icmp you could get more traffic....
>
> Another idea....
> allow icmp to the server from your second machine in the internet....
> make a ping -f -s 15000 from this machine to the servers, whats going on
> on the firewall and the server......warnin: this could shot you in your
> foot if
> the server or the firewall could not really handle this.....
> (ping -f sends very much packets, i believe 1000 in parallel, to the
> target, and you must be root to do so
> in my example with araoung 15k workload, on linux machines it could be that
> 15000 is to high...)
>
>
>>
>>
>> RB
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