I totally concur with you John, that is exactly what most "surround" systems 
are like in this country, and probably elsewhere. I visit people and have to 
bite my tongue when I see how they have their, normally cheap & cheerful, 
systems set up, and when I'm really lucky and I get a demonstration on how 
realistic it sounds, I just have to sit there and nod in agreement.

The problem is, most people stopped being interested in any form of quality 
when, in the UK at least, Ferguson released the dreaded "Studio 6" all in one 
stereo system, and the likes of Amstrad (AKA Alan Sugar) swamped the market 
with cheap Lo-Fi equipment




  Some years ago I asked a question about how many list-members actually had 
correctly set up surround systems of any sort at home; not in the studio, or 
research facility, but in their own homes as a way of enjoying music. I seem to 
remember that very few - three, if I recall correctly - said that they had. Is 
it worth asking the question again?

  Most people I know (in the UK, at least, where the prevalence of a 'den' set 
aside solely for watching sport on huge televisions is rather less than it is 
in the USA) still have nasty all-in-one 5.1 systems in their living rooms where 
the speakers are arranged so as not to get in the way or look ugly. They're not 
listening to properly set-up systems with well-defined levels and localisation, 
they're listening to a bunch of speakers in random positions and occasionally 
to a bit of LFE going 'boom' when a car explodes. It's probably far worse now 
in terms of localisation than it was when stereo first came out and everyone 
knew how you were supposed to set the system up and listen to it. 

  Regards,

  John


  On 1 May 2011, at 12:15, Richard Dobson wrote:

  > Have any listening tests actually been carried out to establish what 
"typical" users consider to be sufficiently good localization? 

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