Reading through this thread I feel the other responses may not have given you a clear picture. There are lots of very capable Ambisonic practitioners on this list, but sometimes they forget that beginners may not understand the formal terminology (or the in-list banter).

The simple answer is that you cannot manipulate a set of A-format signals and then convert them into B-format. A-format is simply a set of microphone signals with very precisely-known characteristics and from precisely-known directions (LFU, RFD, RBD, LBU - note the U (up) and D (down) components; it's not simply LF, RF, RB, LB). Normally the only possible manipulation of the A-format signals is correction for calibration differences between the microphones and compensation for the distance between the capsules if you are using a soundfield-type microphone; this manipulation is done to the A-format signals to improve the A-format to B-format conversion.

The Ambisonic signal as such exists as the B-format data. In this form only it can be rotated, focussed, made to behave like sets of virtual microphones of different character, etc. Nowadays this is much more easily done in the digital domain rather than by analogue mixing. But the A-format signals are not an analog of quadrophonic signals; if you mix/rotate the A-format signals before converting them into B-format what you will end up with is a set of signals that _cannot ever_ be converted into Ambisonic B-format. To attempt to do so just doesn't make any sense.

OK, I've simplified things a little in this explanation; the more scientific- or mathematically-minded list members will probably burn me in effigy for heresy. ;-) But I think you needed a simpler, more direct explanation than you had got before now.

Gerard Lardner


On 26/09/2013 23:22, Kan Kaban wrote:
Sorry Mr. McGriffy & Aero for the wrong quote, I don´t do lists since some 
years ago.
Thanks a lot for all this info to everyone, I really appreciate your concern. 
Now I have a lot to do...
I´m sorry if some ambisonics terminology is not being used as intended. I hope 
you understand.
The idea of using a quadraphonic panner (previous to AB conversion, came from 
Mr. Gerzon´s paper:
"A-format consists of four channels LB, LF, RF, RB compatible with existing 
'discrete' practice for the four corner positions".
Please correct me again, but I read that A-format is Lb / Lf /Rf / Rb. So seems 
logical & possible to me (sorry I that´s offending anyone) to use a 
quadraphonic panner before the AB converter.
I suppose that´s not a full ambisonics panner, but at last will do the job as a 
starting point. Isn´t it?.
Soundfield´s MKV looks beautiful & very interesting too.
Regards,
Gino.


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130926/fc64442b/attachment.html>
_______________________________________________
Sursound mailing list
[email protected]
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130927/d3ea9ce4/attachment.html>
_______________________________________________
Sursound mailing list
[email protected]
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Reply via email to