Increasing European legislation is pushing concert levels to a maximum of 
100dBA over a 10-15min LEQ. In doors in France the norm is 103 dBA over 10 
mins. Switzerland has a generous 100dBA over 60 minutes. At open air festivals 
the level can be as low as 95dBA or 10 minutes. The days of unrestrained rock 
concerts are pretty much over. At the big Rock festivals such as Download and 
Sonisphere the norm in 98dBA 15 mins. Cheating the levels is very hard and 
requires a different attitude to mixing which is what I am researching. I am 
very interested to hear that other engineers such as Steve Boardman are 
adopting the sub route. I am interested in any of the positives of the route in 
particular mechanosensation, the feeling that sound is loud associated with the 
sensation of air pressure on the skin, in the chest cavity etc. Trying to 
reintroduce the immersive quality of a loud concert with out the harmful sound 
pressure at the frequencies that are most often associated with hearing damage.


Jon Burton
Research Student MSc  
University of York.
[email protected]





> On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:48, Jörn Nettingsmeier <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 04/22/2015 10:50 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced
>>> with a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the
>>> bass a lot. So there is plenty anecdotal evidence for more bass
>>> resulting in less weighted sound pressure.
>> 
>> The whole idea of measuring 100dB-ish levels with the A filter
>> is somehow ... (trying to be gentle) strange...
> 
> yeah, but if you measure db(C) or unweighted and mix accordingly, you _will_ 
> get beaten up by the skull tattoos and leather jackets crowd. so there are 
> health hazards to correct measuring, too. and they are occupational rather 
> than recreational...
> 
> /me uses ear protection :)
> 
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