Out of curiosity - can I ask why you want to use ambisonics as opposed to
other spatial audio techniques ?

On 9 February 2016 at 22:31, Martin Dupras <[email protected]> wrote:

> Plan A is more or less my backup. I'm fairly confident that I can get
> that working. For my needs the verticality is more important up than
> down, I would say, but it's a good point that the amount of complexity
> might make it a better option for my plans next week.
>
> I'll keep digging for a hemispherical layout though. Still not found a
> single example yet.
>
> Thanks for all the help!
>
> - martin
>
>
> On 9 February 2016 at 22:18, Michael Chapman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Firstly, I've never got beyond twelve (two stacked hexagons), so
> > ignore my comments at your _non_-peril ;-)>
> >
> > It strikes me, that it all depends on what you want from height :
> >
> > Your initial proposal was with the base ring at ear height.
> > If your vertical 'stuff' is equally 'up' and 'down' you'd be better off
> > with an octagon on the floor and another the same distance above ear
> > height (plan A).
> >
> > If the vertical 'stuff' is both complex/essential _and_ all (/almost all)
> > 'up' then a hemisphere sounds a better option (plan B).
> >
> > Plan A is theoretically 'easy peasy', but from my experience still quite
> > fiddly (and time-consuming) to set up.
> > Plan B s far more 'cutting edge' (both in mechanical set-up, but not
> least
> > in decoding, ...).
> >
> > If this is :
> > -(sort of) your first time
> > -in a few days time
> > -without a dress rehearsal
> > then I'd lean towards Plan A.
> >
> > But, hey, with that sort of caution we'd never have discovered America
>  .
> >  .  .
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks for all the responses. Much appreciated.
> >>
> >> I'll re-phrase the question in light of some of the answers I've been
> >> given.
> >>
> >> I will be using third-order Ambisonics. My aim mostly is to experiment
> >> to get a good sense of what is possible with Ambisonics with height. I
> >> have experimented successfully with 8-channel planar Ambisonics some
> >> time ago. My primary intent is to spatialise multiple monophonic
> >> (synthesised) sources using 3rd-order Ambisonics spatialisation, and
> >> the playback of mixed sources (spatialised monphonic and stereophonic
> >> sources as well as B-format 4-channel recordings.)
> >>
> >> At this moment in time, I have the opportunity to deploy (next week) a
> >> 16-channel array, so I would like some advice on a configuration that
> >> would be a good start to experiment with Ambisonics with height.
> >> Someone suggested that I consult the wikipedia page on Ambisonics.
> >> That is indeed where I got the idea that an "upper hemisphere" setup
> >> might be suitable, since I only have on this occasion 16 speakers.
> >> There is however no suggestion as to what a suitable hemispherical
> >> configuration might be for a 16-speaker array, which is why I asked my
> >> original question.
> >>
> >> So let me ask a new question. Given the constraint that I can only use
> >> 16 speakers at the moment, and that I need to deploy this next week,
> >> can somehow point me in the direction of what might be a suitable and
> >> reasonable geometric configuration to try out? It seems to me that the
> >> only really practical options here are two stacked rings (stacked
> >> octagons) or a hemisphere. I would have thought that the hemisphere
> >> would be the better choice, and in my scenario, a full lighting rig
> >> allows me theoretically speaking to have speakers at the required
> >> positions.
> >>
> >> Again, thank you for all the responses.
> >>
> >> - martin
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8 February 2016 at 15:19, Martin Dupras <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm intending to try setting up a 16-speaker Ambisonics array next
> >>> week in a small TV studio. I'm trying to figure out the practical
> >>> arrangements for setting up the speakers. I was wondering if anyone
> >>> with experience might be able to offer some advice or point me in the
> >>> right direction?
> >>>
> >>> What I'm planning at the moment is a half-sphere arrangement which
> >>> would likely consist of:
> >>>
> >>> - 8 speakers in a circle of radius 2m at a height of approximately 1.6m
> >>> - 6 speakers in a smaller circle at an elevation of 45 degrees
> >>> - 2 speakers at an elevation of approximately 75 degrees
> >>>
> >>> Alternatively, I would be happy with an arrangement similar to the
> >>> first 16-speakers in this diagramme:
> >>>
> http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/loudspeaker-plan-observatory.jpg
> >>>
> >>> I've been trying to find out if there is a convention or "most usual"
> >>> arrangement but couldn't find anything. I'm not particularly attached
> >>> to the actual arrangement, I just want to find an arrangement that
> >>> will work well enough with 16 speakers. Any advice?
> >>>
> >>> The other thing I would welcome is advice on how to mount the speakers
> >>> to lighting rigs in a manner that is practical enough to offer some
> >>> good compromise between precision and ease of setup. I believe the
> >>> speakers we'll be using for the upper tiers will be Genelec 8060s.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> - martin
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