Hi  Will,  I thought of the labeling thing like this, earlier than 80186 cpu
desk top computers wore "micro computers" and 80186 and newer are "miny
computers" I think I read it some whear, but am not sure.
  Any ways whear I am going whith this is the teacher at the one school I
went to insists the pentium computers are "micro computers", well, I think
that's wrong, I geus it doesn't mater, rite?
  Pete

On 1999-05-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   >I first encountered DOS in 1984 when I used Wordperfect to edit
   >COBOL programs at college.  Prior to that, I had already been
   >working on minicomputers (what some might mistakenly call
   >mainframes) for a few years (and still do).  I then owned a
   >Sinclair ZX81, then a Color Computer 2, before I got my first IBM
   >PC compatible in 1989.  When trying to learn how to use desktop
   >computers, I remember thinking that the 'desktop computer paradigm'
   >might be easier to learn for those who had *not* already been using
   >mainframes or minicomputers.  I think it had something to do with
   >the fact that mainframes are a 'transaction-based' environment.  In
   >other words, most mainframe programs read, write, or change
   >discrete records in a file.  On desktop computers, however, I
   >thought it was strange to start Lotus, or a word processor, and
   >then load a whole file to change discrete records, and then
   >remember to 'Save' the file when I was finished with it.  That, at
   >first, seemed awkward to me.  That's why it occured to me that
   >desktop computers might have been easier for me to learn if I had
   >not already had experience with mainframes and minicomputers.
   >BTW, when I got active on Compuserve, and BBS's, in 1989, or so, I
   >got frustrated when communicating with people who would talk about
   >'PC's, when what they really meant was 'desktop computers'.  There
   >*was* a difference in my mind.  "PC" was really, I thought for a
   >while, a trademark, or at least a designation that should only be
   >used for the IBM version of the desktop computer.  All the other
   >desktop computers, like Atari, Coco, Commodore, TRS-80, Mac, etc.
   >should only be referred to as 'desktop computers', *not* as PC's.
   >Now, of course, the term 'PC' is used as a generic term for desktop
   >computers, but I still prefer my way of thinking.
   >I just remembered something.  I used an IBM (pre-MS-DOS PC) desktop
   >computer briefly in 1979 or so.  I believe it was called the
   >'Desktop 64', or something.  It only had a couple floppy drives, no
   >hard drive.
   >When I wrote my first PC-compatible shareware program, in 1990, it
   >uses a 'mainframe' paradigm.  I.E., when the user enters, changes or
   >deletes records, it just operates on one record at a time.  In other
   >words, they don't load a whole file first, then save it when
   >finished.  In reality, since most desktop computers (and mainframes,
   >I presume) use buffers, the program really changes records in the
   >buffer, and then the OS reads or writes them to/from the HD in
   >groups, transparently to my program.  I remember my first users
   >being confused that the program didn't ask them to 'Save' the file
   >when they exited the program.  Because of the presence of the
   >buffers, the 'Loading', 'Changing', then 'Saving' a whole file
   >still seems redundant to me, since, in many cases, the whole file
   >then probably exists in 2 places in the PC's memory.
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