<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 12:40 PM 10/10/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >just reading this months puter magazines and i notice that the latest
chip
> >is the Athlon 800mhz and it comes with it's own refigeration unit to keep
> >the chip constantly at  minus40degreesC.   i wonder if putting my puter
in
> >the freezer compartment would solve all the problems i've been having
with
> >it lately....
>
>
> I have also thought about that but since some components generate heat, it
> would be devilishly expensive, and there'd be condensation issues.  Also,
> you'd have trouble getting the cables out of the freezer without further
> loss of cold and moisture introduction.  [...]

If you REALLY want to get into this (and one advantage of some of the older
hardware is that such nonsense is NOT required), check out
http://www.agaweb.com/coolcpu/ for watercooled systems in general, and
http://www.kryotech.com/ for cooled prebuilt cases. There are also some
electronic "active" cooling devices that go between the CPU and heatsink.

Note that these options will NOT be inexpensive. If you're really concerned
about cooling, sticking some sort of thermometer in your system as it runs
(case closed etc.) may be revealing. ROUGHLY SPEAKING, if your case temp
exceeds about 90 degrees F/32C then cooling may be worthwhile. I was a
skeptic on this until my AMD K6-2 350 began flaking out as things warmed up
here in Phoenix when the outside temp hits 115+F/46C. I don't like to run
the AC, so let the house get fairly warm -- usually about 80F/25C. Sure
enough, the warm days were the ones where the system would lock up and
generally misbehave. I stuck in one of the "slot coolers" ($19US) and it
dropped the case temp down a few degrees, which has been enough to keep it
happy and far more stable. The little blue jobbie I got goes into an ISA or
PCI slot and has two fans which can be extended and more-or-less directed at
the hot spots (drives and CPU). Pretty simple, inexpensive, and a LOT safer
than running coolant through the case!

A simple test would be to remove the case for an extended period and see if
the system stays stable for an extended period. If you're anywhere with
reasonable temperatures most of the year, this should help identify most any
temperature-related problems.

>From some of the real hardware nuts on another list I'm on, I've learned
that pushing air INTO the case and OUT the power supply works best and my
experience seems to back this. Then you get the pleasure of another annoying
fan noise!

- Bob

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