On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:40:12 -0800 Randy Goldenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday January 17, 2001, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>> Just got a encoded file
>> From: "ESoftFinder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Members" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: January newsletter
>> I do not know ESoft, at least I cannot remember them and I do not expect a
>> newsletter. A virus? a worm?
>> Cannot uuencode this bas64 file so I do not know what is in it ;-(.
>> On a DOS only system you can of course play around with it ;-).
>> Somebody wants to take a look?
> Base64, the MIME standard, is much more common than
> uuencode. For those occasions when your mail reader is
> unable to automagically decode a message it's useful to
> have an app for doing it manually. In DOS, "mpack" is
> straightforward, easy to use and available on simtelnet.
I noticed that Constant uses Net-tamer, a program that is perfectly
capable of decoding standard MIME Base64 files as well as UUENCODED
files. I know this because I have a lot of experience in using
Net-tamer. If he cannot decode it with Net-tamer, then most likely it
is just a corrupted file. Net-tamer decodes the files semi-manually,
not automagically like Windows email programs.
Sam Heywood
automagically, but
> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:28:44 -0800
> From: John Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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> What happening with Nettamer?
> MIME version: 1.0
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
> Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
> boundary="--tcpsmtp010170200109032053"
> --tcpsmtp010170200109032053
> If you have been watching the Nettamer List, Walter Scott has decided to
> give up on following the list. This is a major loss, because Walter has always
> notified the list when a new beta version was posted to the Nettamer web page.
> Walter also spent many hours testing the new betas of Nettamer and ALWAYS posted
> an objective
> analysis.
> In the distant past Bob Buckland did a similar service. However,
> Bob quit for approximately the same reasons as Walter. Just that Bob saw the
> "hand writing on the wall" a lot sooner than Walter choose to see it.
> Walter's reasons appear obvious to me:
> Nothing is happening with Nettamer.
> IF David Colston has made the decision to no longer support the application,
> then he should say that on the mailing list.
> IF David Colston has taken time off from supporting or developing the
> application - FOR WHAT EVER REASONS - then he should say so on the list.
> I added a /CC to Uncle Dave as well as some of the regular supporters of
> of Nettamer. Because I don't want to see a functional DOS-based application
> that gives access to the Internet be lost because of a perceived lack of
> interest by the developer.
> There is obviously interest in a DOS-based PPP dialer which can have other
> applications attached to the PPP dialer.
> Heimo Classen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has posted the parameters to follow
> when developing a stand alone version of the PPP dialer.
> It appears someone has taken Heimo's suggestions and is building beta code
> that is claimed to be a DOS-based PPP dialer. The SURVPC mailing list has
> many recent comments about folks attempting to add applications to the newly
> developed DOS-PPP dialer application. Somebody thinks there time is well
> served by working on the source code to produce just such an application.
> Last fall I posted a request for anyone interested in a DOS-based PPP dialer
> to send me personal email. I received about fifty (50) positive responses.
> ZERO negative responses. The pricing suggested covered the gambit from:
> freeware - without support & "take it as is" - through $100 (USD) for a
> version with docs which includes how-to's "hooking" other applications.
> Some North American folks have questioned Heimo Classens' posting about the
> poll taken by the German magazine which found over half the respondents still
> use some flavor of DOS on a regular basis.
> IMO those of us in North America are under the illusion that cheap, reliable,
> & accessible telephone service, a large number of local ISP's are available,
> and cheap high-powered computers, along with the discretionary personal
> funds for using the Internet are what everybody has available worldwide
> = NOT!!!
> IMO we North American's live in a computing candy store compared to most of
> the rest of the computing world.
> (Also I have a lot of older computer available to me that other people have
> decided to replace because of the on-going upgrade marketing wars which keep
> the American stock market afloat.
> I prefer to look at the basics of what can you actually send & receive over
> your communications system attached to your computer. In our office we sure
> cannot afford the cost of a T-1/E-1, synchronous 1.54Mbps connection to
> the Internet backbone. Just in case some of you all think your ADSL or ISDN
> is so darn fast that you need that much bandwidth - remember your running in
> an asynchronous environment. Thus you can't push that much juice down the
> wire on a steady state basis. I you don't believe me, go read about the
> fundamentals of telephone networks and "real data packet speeds".)
> Back to Nettamer and what are the options for the shareware and registered
> users?
> We North American's can sit with our thumbs in our ears and simply move
> Nettamer onto an older computer and consider it to be a tool we use on an
> occasional basis. Billy Gate's and Micro$oft would love us to take that
> approach.
> However, if,
> your blind,
> your disabled,
> your only computer is an older DOS-based machine,
> your financially underprivileged, or,
> your telco is not located in North America,
> your going to want Nettamer to remain a viable product.
> So, Uncle Dave, what's it going to be?
> Does your existing user base switch to another application?
> Or will you, can you, do you want to, finally bite the bullet and update
> the bug fixes that Thomas collected from users last fall?
> Or are you willing to collaborate with some of the folks who have built
> applications based on the Nettamer product line?
> Uncle Dave, your welcome to set the record straight and not remain the
> anonymous poster of occasional beta code and occasional upgrades to the
> Nettamer web page.
> I would like to see anyones comments cross posted to both the Nettamer and
> SURVPC lists. That way everybody can understand what is going on and we are
> not stuck with the choice forwarding personal emails with "secrets" in them.
> John Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> using NetTamer, DOS shareware
> Voice mail: 800-589-8167 Office: 916-339-2311 Pacific Time
> Coming Soon!! Mouse Support for Edlin!!
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 - Registered
> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:02:30 -0700
> From: Bob George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Dont just say ``no'' to vi
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> www.nedit.org
> Ah, X-based. It looks nice, but of course there are times when the ol' GUI
> won't fire up!
> - Bob
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