At 09:32 AM 8/10/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Can someone tell me the difference between:
>
>EPPPD.EXE  09-19-1997  49.258 bytes long
>EPPPD.EXE  09-20-1997  45.638 bytes long
>
>I see no difference using both.
>
>To dial, I use COMTOOL with excellent results.

I ddidn't memorize the history of EPPPD but the approximate version is that
source code for EPPPD05 was made available to a person who then modified it
and released it as EPPPD06.  I think _that_ source code is also available
on a selective basis - you have to ask for it?

Anyone can re-use an existing name and recompile if they have the source
code for a program.  One version of your EPPPD.EXE may be version 5 while
the other is version 6 or someone could have tried modifying version 5
to something else.  Difficult to know which it might be.

>Has anyone used only DOS's ECHO as:
>
>echo ATZ
>echo ATDT06102221515 > Com1
>
>I am missing something, because it does not work for me.

The basics are that there are STDOUT (standard output - normally your
screen but
at one time this could have been a printer), STDERR (faster more direct
writing to
your screen), COM1-COM4 (was only COM1 to COM2 for many years), LPT1 (parallel
port #1) and possibly an LPT2 (second parallel port), CON (your keyboard), TTY
and AUX (auxillary serial ports).

You can do "copy con MYFILE" and type anything you want put in that file then
end the process by pressing ctrl-Z which closes the file.  This is a very
direct
way of using DOS that dates back to several decades ago but does continue
to work
if/when the need arises. :-)

The echo command defaults to STDOUT which are a collection of routines to
format
output to a monitor screen.  If you redirect this to a COM# port where your
modem is either attached (external) or installed (internal) the echoed
characters
would be sent through the bios serial port routines to your modem.  These BIOS
routines are referred to as the INT14h BIOS hook and were limited to 9600 baud
originally then improved to 19,200 baud.  They were really designed to feed a
serial printer - not for telecom as most seem to think.

I think there are instructions for using TTY to transfer from one machine
to another
within the documentation for XPORT21 but not sure, might've been another
transfer
program I'm thinking of?  You can, if you know how, send a binary of a small
transfer program to a second machine using TTY then use _that_ binary to
complete
a transfer of files between the two machines.

Mainframe programmers apparently do this sort of thing when they don't find a
compatible protocol on another machine they install one, use it, then
delete it
when they are finished.

Linux users know this as CTTY If I remember correctly.

What you need to be able to use "echo" is TTY.  Do a search using "TTY" and
find
a detailed explanation of how it can be used.  Many have forgotten that those
very raw I/O routines exist within DOS.  It will be educational from the
historical
perspective and certainly won't hurt anything to try it. :-)



Charles Angelich

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