dizzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> George Toft wrote:
> 
> >Personally I don't mind paying for the commercial
> 
> > versions as it supports the cause.  I do mind paying
> > retail, and that's why I buy from www.cheapbytes.com -
> > I get the commercial box for 30% off.
> 
> couldnt agree more. I dont even mind buying directly from suse
> *providing* the
> release is
> *stable* which btw 6 dosent seem to be [in my observation]

I must disagree here regarding stability.  I think that we are seeing
two phenomena regarding SuSE 6.  Those would be:

* people that upgraded and are having problems
* people for one reason or another did a fresh install (I fall into that
group by error and not desire)

In my limited testing, and I am no glibc guru, but things have worked
quite well with doing a fresh installation.  If folks remember, I voiced
some concern about upgrading a rather complexified suse 5.3 dist. I had
built with lots of extras.  I had a fear that things would generally get
wierd with self-compiled libs, programs that would stop working or get
overwritten like when I upgraded from SuSE 5.1 to 5.3.  Suddenly, I had
the limited evaluation copy of applix instead of the full version.  That
was kinda wierd.  This time around, I had some major fears but because
of some events that happened my choice was made easier.  I removed a
completely broken 5.3 install I had done and replaced it with a new 6.

I have found one application that refuses to work and that is tkrat.  IT
has the libs it wants but it complains about some tcl/tk lingo.  I gave
up and went back to ishmail.  I'm a wimpy X11 email lover.

So concluding these roving comments.  I think that SuSE 6 is quite
stable here; but I dont believe it would have been if'n I had upgraded
my beloved 5.3.  I dont think, honestly, that the upgrade approach works
too well with self-compiled libs and proggies and I dont believe it
handles slight differences in the way people do installs too well.  My
grade on upgrading has always been a borderline D.  I have always had
problems.

This is not to say that SuSE now is bad or unstable.  I have not had a
failed compile and have gotten wp8, SO5, office99, and some other stuff
working.  If I could figure out what postilion really wants, I would
give that a try.

So, in my view, upgrading produces problems invariably 90% of the time
and has for me.  SuSE should study carefully the issues with this
process.  Blasting everything away, tho painful, left me with a SuSE 6
which works quite well.

As usual, I write too damned much on these things.  My abject apologies
to the group-at-large.


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Michael Perry
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