On 15-Feb-99 George Toft a dit .....:
\>
\> SoiF wrote:
\>>
\>> On 15-Feb-99 George Toft a dit .....:
\>> \>
\>> \> SoiF wrote:
\>> \>>
\>> \>> On 15-Feb-99 George Toft a dit .....:
\>> \>
\>> \> The program "Adaptec Easy CD Creator," which came with my CD
\>> \> writer will make a CD from that image. The program
\>> \> "file2cd"
\>> \> (which is freeware available from
\>> \> http://www.goldenhawk.com/products/freeware.htm) will do
\>> \> this also.
\>>
\>> Yep .. but the iso image is for evaluation copy !! not the full
\>>
\>> The full is a 4 CD set !! and not avalaible in .iso
\>
\> The full 4 CD set includes commercial software, like
\> StarOffice and Adabas. If you want those, you have
\> to pay, or visit their website.
\>
Yes but in the box there 5 CD .. right ?
2 RPM .. (install + GPL one)
1 commercial
1 Live
1 source .. right ?
So why the �valution has only 1 CD ?
If there's 2 CD .. i said ok that normal they don't give you commercial/live &
source ..
But there 2 RPM .. not 1 !
And so why call it "�valuation" CD ? Not GPL Version ?
And why they give �valution CD for publicity en sell old GLP one ..
One lsl.com or so .. you will not find the SuSE 5.3 �valuation but the 5.3 GPL
one .. And nothing about 6.0 .. in 6 months when 6.0 become obsolete (6.1
released) they will sell GPL 6.0 (not the �valuation one !! )
So �valution and GPL version aren't the same ? >> Yes
To conclude : If you want to have a uptodate distro the only solution is pay or
change of distro .
\>>
\>> Yep but SMP have been _really_ improve in 2.2 kernel .. (non blocking 1
\>> CPu
\>> ..)
\>>
\>> So .. Debian ??
\>
\> Debian provides one CD ISO image. SuSE provides one CD ISO
\> image.
No Debian provide 3 CD SET ..
2 install / RPM and 1 sources
So Debian contain more soft than SuSE (no if you compare to commercial version
/ Yes if you compare to GPL)
\> I really don't understand where you want to go. Only so
\> much
\> stuff can be placed on a CD. SuSE uses 5 CD's in the
\> commercial
\> package:
\> 1: RPM packages and really cool software like MI/X.
\> 2, 3: RPM packages.
\> 4: Source code
\> 5: Live file system.
\>
You see you're agree with me .. 5 CD .. not 1
\> No other distribution comes close to this quality.
\>
That right .. I'm totally agree with you ..SuSE distro are really good but the
'distribution method(or licence i don't know)' of this distro is not really good
You want new GPL soft >>>> you must pay !
And i don't speack here about _strange_ licence like Yast one !!
\> Debian 2.0 came out about the same time as SuSE 5.2,
\> so if the latest and greatest is your thing, I
\> don't think Debian is a good choice.
The last frozen version of Debian (i don't remember the version ~2.1)
is total kernel 2.2 and glibc compliant (i try it without _really_no_problem.
perhaps dselect horrible interface .. but no bug)
I don't want to launch a polemic about 'which is the best / or the latest
distro ?' here
And in another mail you said commercial are cheaper than ftp download 2.0 Gb
for you perhaps for me not really .. I can download everything from job without
any charge .So .. you understand what i want .
And somebody else said why What is the problem you can download which RPM you
want and burn it .. yes but i want the all distro .. ~2 Go and on a single CD
that very hard to do . And I don't think that if i burn CD whithout a doc ..
yast will never find the good package on the right disk .
So tell me how to burn CD from ftp site (not the evaluation one)
I have already see that question in the mailing list whithout answer (last
month). That why ask it again
\>
\> One last question: What are you looking for that's
\> not on the SuSE evaluation CD? I used the 5.2
\> evaluation CD on my laptop for months before I
\> bought the 5.3 commercial.
\>
And why do you bought it ? To encourage SuSE (that 's a really good reason) ,
because you want a uptodate distro when 5.3 was released or for the commercial
package ?
In fact the really trouble is that some of my friend who develop things (gtk
members .. or Free Software Fond..) have the same trouble .. they take a
commercial version of RH (for example) a burn the two first CD of the distro .
not the commercial one . It 's a bit piracy i think but how can they do without
it ? Pay for commercial one every 3 months / buy a GPL old version and spent 3
weeks of ftp to make it uptodate . No the fast / easier method .
Because RH 5.3 GPL are hard to fine too but available not SuSE one .
The best wish I could do it's that commercial distributor of LinuX help the
LinuX community . And don't transform them to Windows User . who most of
them are pirates or old fashion user (with Win 3.1 on there box because they
can't paid news licence for there 95/Office)
Somebody tell me that using Windows is more expansive .. perhap's but don't
forget that LinuX licencing method is growing fast in windows world
( apache / Mysql .. and so on exist for free on Nt like LinuX .. and
commercial product like Startoffice have the same licence of LinuX & 95 )
And do you really know someone who have buy a window 95 update to 98 , I don't
WinX sucks that right but i think that trying to make too much money about
LinuX will transform it to the same result .. You need this soft (pub ) so pay
for it .
I know that the financial aspect of LinuX is the most important ..the
stability and good sutff are .And a lot of us have buy a lot of LinuX things
(~4 books .. T-shirt ..). but today if you feel the LinuX world like the
Windows(SuckTm) world , do you continue to support linux as you do now ?
\> George
Best regards .. J�rome ..
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(PS : George don't feel angry about me I 'm just try to explain my opinion and
I really love SuSE i already paid 3 SuSE distro for work / home / my sister
present . But i don't want to buy 3 other now .. I want the 6.0 GPL version
So i can't give a copy to my syster whithout doing 'pirate copy' of my just
buy 6.0)
And excuse for my English .. I'm a french guy
And my teeth is my dentist whom broke it .. not SuSE anger .. :=) thanks ..
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