>> Jerry I take issue with that. I asked several times was there an upgrade
><snip>
>Arn't you glad it's still a free internet where you can post opposing
>opinions freely?  I am too.
>You have noticed that SuSE is a for-profit organization, haven't you? 

As I said several Times , I prefer to support Suse. Thats why I called them
, not the other retialers.

.  If it is to survive it must earn
>its living. I didn't say steal - by no stretch of the imagination can
>you consider any profit SuSE makes unehtical.  M$, on the otherhand....
>Between my freshmen and sophmore years I earned money selling books and
>Bibles door to door in the what is called the Bible Belt of the USA.
>(Southern tier of states)  I quickly learned that I wasn' going to be
>eating if I asked the person who answered my knock "You don't want to
>buy and books do  you?" while shaking my head "no".  And, I wouldn't be
>eating if I simply gave away the book for free.  If I wasn't going to
>sell books I wasn't going to eat.

Here We go Agien ? I called , asked what there upgrade policy. Simple
question. I got the run arouninstead.
Thats what upset me. I might be due to slopyness. I might be due to bad
trianing. 
It is a quastion they should know the answer. Especialy in light that they
put out 3 to 4 distros per year. If you bought the full version at 50 ,
that comes out to 150 to 200 per year plus shipping. I have no problem
paying the 50 for the first ver ie 6.0 and then 35.00 to keep it up to date
untill 7.0 comes out. I was never offered that , or told that. Instead I
got evasive and round about anwers.

> SuSE's employees arn't going to be
>eating if they don't sell any packaged versions.  You are not stupid. 
 
Thanks <grin> Anyway , yes I found it on the server , after someone else
pionted out that the german sight has an upgrade policy , and questioned
why there was no such policy on the us sight. That when I jumped in. At
least two others have questened what kind of upgrade policy there is. That
four peaple at least who have posted. That does not count the lurkers. 

I think suses sales need to be properly infoe\rmed of their products. -That
includes upgrade policy.-

>You know the URL's of the ftp servers.  You don't need any help choosing
>and downloading the appropriate files, and you know how to run rpm and
>YaST.

I would rather pay a small fee and get cdroms , I can only get as high as
2600 Bd , dirty lines , and the telco wont do anything. So until cable or
adsl comes to town , I am stuck with a slow isp connection.
  So, if you don't like the what SuSE is asking for their packaged
>version then go do the free thing.  Why whine, unless it is because you
>don't know what to download or how to install it.  That's welfare.

I never asked that thaey give away the manuales or cds. I have stated that
the manuale alone is worth the money. The cdroms are pax\cked with goodies.
I said I was willing to pay for an upgrade fee for cds that would bring me
up to current version, I was NOT offered that. Instead they PUSHED the full
versiuon. THat is just plian wrong. 

  They
>don't owe you that.  Do you want them to give away the manuals and their
>knowledge and advice free of charge?  That is unrealistic.  You wouldn't
>do that for a minute if feeding you wife and kids depending on your
>earning a steady income.  Why should they?
>Jerry
>
>> 
>> >Brad Jones wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>         I am planning to buy Suse 6.1 when it comes out, I just wanted
>> to wait
>> >> until all the glibc and kernel 2.2 changes have been finished and had
>> >> some time for any bugs to be ironed out before I buy the commercial
>> >> version. I was just after a quick upgrade in the meantime.
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Brad.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Brad Jones wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >>         I am currently running the full commercial version of SuSE5.2
>> >> and want
>> >> >> to upgrade to 6.0. I've been dnloading the 6.0 version (by modem) and
>> >> am
>> >> >> getting sick of waiting. I just wanted to know what files I actually
>> >> >> need to upgrade to 6.0. I would suspect that all the old binaries I
>> >> have
>> >> >> installed from 5.2 will still work with 6.0. It should be backwards
>> >> >> compatible right?
>> >> >>         So I guess if I just have the first 3 directories (a1, app1,
>> >> app2) from
>> >> >> the ftp site dnloaded I should be able to just go into yast, set this
>> >> >> directory to be the source and then click on update. Is this all I
>> >> have
>> >> >> to do? I don't need any other of the directories?
>> >> >>         If there's anything else I need could you please let me know.
>> >> It just
>> >> >> seems like a waste dnloading everything when I don't need it all.
>> >> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> >> Brad.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Ahhh...   Now you see the advantage of purchasing the commerical
>> >> version
>> >> >on CDROM.
>> >> >1) A permanent copy of the distro plus ALL the major downloads
>> >> available
>> >> >at the time, all on 5 CDs.
>> >> >2)  A ready-made boot disk.
>> >> >3) A live-system on the CD.
>> >> >4) A beautiful manual.
>> >> >5)  If your time is worth anything, and you don't have a T1 connection
>> >> >to the internet, it is easier and quicker to get the commerical
>> >> release.
>> >> >6) It costs less than a movie and dinner out for two... ;-)
>> >> >7) The CD boots into YaST and the install-upgrade is just clicks away.
>> >> >8) Where else could you get such a finely engineered system at such a
>> >> >low price?
>> >> >
>> >> >However, Geeks with plenty of experience, time to burn and a T1 would
>> >> >think nothing of downloading all the packages and putting together an
>> >> >installable system.
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