Re: [biofuel] serious ethanol players

[skaar]

huh huh huh, he said dick, huh huh. thanks all, i'll be doing a few more beavis impressions later tonight, don't drink the water, the meatloaf is where they get it here at the sierra poot lounge. Dick Carlstein wrote: > i know not if this info has been on the list before, and if so, pls. > excuse. maybe re-reading it won't do any harm ! brazil is today the > only serious ethanol player in the world. all other ethanol users are > amateurs by comparison. in 1984 brazil decided to go the anhydrous > ethanol route. it set up vehicle mix standards for manufacturers, and > made available (until 1997) a subsidy of 140 million dollars to > anhydrous ethanol (ae) manufacturers. in a country with 140 million > people this is mere chickenfeed. since then brazil has manufactured > close to six million vehicles that run on straight 100% ae. these > include over seven hundred thousand trucks and farm tractors, and some > twelve thousand buses. all manufacturers, and that includes ford and > gm, have a line-up of ae powered vehicles. to manufacture the > necessary ae, brazil has some fifteen million acres of dedicated sugar > cane plantations. as if this where not enough, all brazilian gasoline > has a minimum of 24% ae (v/v) content, and this will probably be upped > to 26% in the near future. as things stand, brazil has the experience > and the expertise derived from running the world's largest alcohol > fueled fleet, for over sixteen years. as of this posting, the factory > price for a liter of ae in brazil is $R 0.40, or $R 1.51 a us gallon. > this translates to us$ 0.90 a gallon ! (R=real, the local > currency) brazilian ae producers are already having to reach > agreements with vehicle manufacturers, as the available ae production > will only fuel 25% of the total brazilian vehicle fleet. as fossil > fuel prices escalate, the demand for ae vehicles grows too, and > premium prices for such vehicles will become common. brazil also has > developed the world's most efficient technology for transforming wood > to methanol, with wood charcoal as a by-product. considering that a > typical eucalyptus plantation in brazil yields well over thirty metric > tons of growth per year, per hectare (27500 pounds per year per acre), > brazil is in a position to launch a methanol/charcoal program to > supplement it's standing ae undertaking. the wood used in such a > program would all be plantation grown, thus the methanol and charcoal > co2 generation would be neutral or even negative when these components > are burnt. so now the rabbit is out of the hat. after this, all other > ethanol efforts will look puny by comparison, methinks. and by the > way, making ethanol from corn is half as efficient as making it from > sugarcane. enjoy !, dick. > > > eGroups Sponsor [Paid Net2phone Advertisement - Click Here!] Paid Net2phone Advertisement - Click Here! > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] huh huh huh, he said dick, huh huh. thanks all, i'll be doing a few more beavis impressions later tonight, don't drink the water, the meatloaf is where they get it here at the sierra poot lounge. Dick Carlstein wrote: i know not if this info has been on the list before, and if so, pls. excuse. maybe re-reading it won't do any harm ! brazil is today the only serious ethanol player in the world. all other ethanol users are amateurs by comparison. in 1984 brazil decided to go the anhydrous ethanol route. it set up vehicle mix standards for manufacturers, and made available (until 1997) a subsidy of 140 million dollars to anhydrous ethanol (ae) manufacturers. in a country with 140 million people this is mere chickenfeed. since then brazil has manufactured close to six million vehicles that run on straight 100% ae. these include over seven hundred thousand trucks and farm tractors, and some twelve thousand buses. all manufacturers, and that includes ford and gm, have a line-up of ae powered vehicles. to manufacture the necessary ae, brazil has some fifteen million acres of dedicated sugar cane plantations. as if this where not enough, all brazilian gasoline has a minimum of 24% ae (v/v) content, and this will probably be upped to 26% in the near future. as things stand, brazil has the experience and the expertise derived from running the world's largest alcohol fueled fleet, for over sixteen years. as of this posting, the factory price for a liter of ae in brazil is $R 0.40, or $R 1.51 a us gallon. this translates to us$ 0.90 a gallon ! (R=real, the local currency) brazilian ae producers are already having to reach agreements with vehicle manufacturers, as the available ae production will only fuel 25% of the total brazilian vehicle fleet. as fossil fuel prices escalate, the demand for ae vehicles grows too, and premium prices for such vehicles will become common. brazil also has developed the world's most efficient technology for transforming wood to methanol, with wood charcoal as a by-product. considering that a typical eucalyptus plantation in brazil yields well over thirty metric tons of growth per year, per hectare (27500 pounds per year per acre), brazil is in a position to launch a methanol/charcoal program to supplement it's standing ae undertaking. the wood used in such a program would all be plantation grown, thus the methanol and charcoal co2 generation would be neutral or even negative when these components are burnt. so now the rabbit is out of the hat. after this, all other ethanol efforts will look puny by comparison, methinks. and by the way, making ethanol from corn is half as efficient as making it from sugarcane. enjoy !, dick. 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