So basically the questions ive raised are a joke Dick?
see 14 15 and 18
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Carlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: [biofuel] do onto others...


> as staunchly  as i support freedom, i also support respect for others, and
> their rights. this is a discussion list, with albeit broad but well
defined
> subjects of interest.
>
> taking up other people's bandwidth with never ending discussions on a
> limerick's origin or phrasing is not my idea of respect for other's
rights.
>
> offline is available to all to pursue such interests, methinks.
>
> good manners are the glue that keep a civilized society in relative
harmony.
> i'm sorry there are people in the list who miss this point and act
> egotistically, uncaring of other member's discomfort.
>
> those who have left the list wrote that they did so because, being
> interested in our 'raison d'etre', they were instead  swamped with
> frivolous, totally uncalled for postings dealing with themes totally
outside
> of our subjects of interest.
>
> there are many humor lists and poetry lists out there that will more than
> welcome these folk's efforts. not that a bit of humor now and then is not
> welcome; but when it disregards the list's interests, it harms the lists
> purpose.
>
> i, for one can tell who cares for other peoples feelings and time by such
> actions, as well as by the lack of editing that accompanies many of the
> postings. these are usually the same people who vociferously defend their
> 'given rights', as they simultaneously forget that all of us have the same
> rights.
>
> do onto others...
>
> (and will somebody with authority please send the unsolicited court jester
> on a looooooooong vacation, with no return ticket ?)
>
> after all, why should i have to miss somebody's interesting posting on
> biofuels, and/or alternative energies, just to keep a babbling idiot happy
> ??
>
> i think i have my rights too...
>
> cheers, dick.
>
> let's get real, please.
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> Subject: [biofuel] Digest Number 384
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>       1. Re: Pump & Motor resource...
>            From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       2. Re: unsubscribe
>            From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       3. Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>            From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       4. Re: unsubscribe
>            From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       5. Re: Pump & Motor resource...
>            From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       6. Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>            From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       7. Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>            From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       8. Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>            From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       9. Re: Sea Shanty
>            From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      10. Re: Sea shanty
>            From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      11. Re: Re: Sea shanty
>            From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      12. Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>            From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      13. Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>            From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      14. uk methanol source
>            From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      15. Re: methanol reclaiming
>            From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      16. RE: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>            From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      17. RE: biofuels and gardners
>            From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      18. Re: uk methanol source
>            From: "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      19. Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>            From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      20. Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>            From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:40:56 +1200
>    From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Pump & Motor resource...
>
> Todd,
>          Thanks for the info. Took me 10 minutes to figure it out but area
> code for the fax number is wrong. Area code for Lincoln is 402 not 877.
> B.r., David
>
> > Surplus Center
> > 1015 West "O" Street
> > P.O. Box 82209
> > Lincoln, Nebraska 68501-2209
> >
> > Fax: 877-474-5198
> > Watts: 800-488-3407
> >
> > Happy bargain shopping...
> >
> > Todd
> > Appal Energy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:11:14 +0100
>    From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: unsubscribe
>
> ONCE AGAIN.... please be so kind as to unsubscribe me from this newsgroup.
>
> whilst at the same time thanking you for previous knowledge ive gained
here.
>
> regards
> Rob Evans
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: sarah momsen
>   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:13 PM
>   Subject: Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe
>
>
>   i second that,
>   please also unsubscribe me from the list
>   i was at first interested in researching uses of bio
>   diesal but i don't have the time to go through 100+
>   emails almost daily
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   --- Rob evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   > please unsubscribe me from this group,
>   > i was very keen on the fuels side of this newsgroup
>   > when i joined, im all for self sufficiency, and cost
>   > savings regarding energy, but this group seems to be
>   > getting too bogged down with the environmental and
>   > political issues now.
>   > get back to offering practical home fuel brewing
>   > information and the likes, it was much more fun
>   > then.
>   >
>   > regards......
>   > Rob
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   >   Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:06 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Digest Number 372
>   >
>   >
>   >   i know, that's why i said it was impossible, sorta
>   > like don kornholio.
>   >   ARE YOU THREATENING ME!!!!!!!!!!????  aa aooooa
>   > oao aoggog
>   >   aoogoggggggogoaogoooaooaghh.
>   >
>   >
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>    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:54:56 -0300
>    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>
> i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but
> i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did
> write my favorite book.
>
> "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
>
> > Yar, mate. Thet be the one
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > circumcising
> > > that's the one.
> > > tommy loy the cabin boy
> > > dirty little nipper
> > > stuffed his ass with broken glass
> > > and circumcised the skipper
> > >
> > > seems painful for both parties.
> > >
> > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper....
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Biofuels wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter
> > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter!
> > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow
> > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go,
> > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell
> > > > International
> > > > > > would
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>    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:21:09 -0400
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> Subject: Re: unsubscribe
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe
>
>
> > ONCE AGAIN.... please be so kind as to unsubscribe me from this
newsgroup.
> >
> > whilst at the same time thanking you for previous knowledge ive gained
> here.
> >
> > regards
> > Rob Evans
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: sarah momsen
> >   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:13 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe
> >
> >
> >   i second that,
> >   please also unsubscribe me from the list
> >   i was at first interested in researching uses of bio
> >   diesal but i don't have the time to go through 100+
> >   emails almost daily
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   thanks
> >   --- Rob evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   > please unsubscribe me from this group,
> >   > i was very keen on the fuels side of this newsgroup
> >   > when i joined, im all for self sufficiency, and cost
> >   > savings regarding energy, but this group seems to be
> >   > getting too bogged down with the environmental and
> >   > political issues now.
> >   > get back to offering practical home fuel brewing
> >   > information and the likes, it was much more fun
> >   > then.
> >   >
> >   > regards......
> >   > Rob
> >   >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   >   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> >   >   Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:06 AM
> >   >   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Digest Number 372
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   i know, that's why i said it was impossible, sorta
> >   > like don kornholio.
> >   >   ARE YOU THREATENING ME!!!!!!!!!!????  aa aooooa
> >   > oao aoggog
> >   >   aoogoggggggogoaogoooaooaghh.
> >   >
> >   >
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> Message: 5
>    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:26:41 -0400
>    From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Pump & Motor resource...
>
> Sorry David,
>
> It's a toll free fax. I guess 877 is similar to 888 and 800 now.
>
> I'm darn glad I got an 800 number before they ran out.
>
> Todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Pump & Motor resource...
>
>
> > Todd,
> >          Thanks for the info. Took me 10 minutes to figure it out but
area
> > code for the fax number is wrong. Area code for Lincoln is 402 not 877.
> > B.r., David
> >
> > > Surplus Center
> > > 1015 West "O" Street
> > > P.O. Box 82209
> > > Lincoln, Nebraska 68501-2209
> > >
> > > Fax: 877-474-5198
> > > Watts: 800-488-3407
> > >
> > > Happy bargain shopping...
> > >
> > > Todd
> > > Appal Energy
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
>    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:34:57 -0500
>    From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>
> I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom
> Ballads -- eons ago.
>
> GN
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but
> > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did
> > write my favorite book.
> >
> > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> >
> > > Yar, mate. Thet be the one
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > circumcising
> > > > that's the one.
> > > > tommy loy the cabin boy
> > > > dirty little nipper
> > > > stuffed his ass with broken glass
> > > > and circumcised the skipper
> > > >
> > > > seems painful for both parties.
> > > >
> > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper....
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Biofuels wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter
> > > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter!
> > > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow
> > > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go,
> > > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell
> > > > > International
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > have it!
> > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
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> Message: 7
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:39:35 +1200
>    From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>
> Thought this was from an old British sailors shanty originally. Maybe
wrong
> as I dont know or certainly cant remember hearing the whole thing. Believe
> if I remember rightly that it seemed to start with the words: "We sailed
on
> the good ship Venus, By God you should have seen us ............etc. Maybe
> I've got it completely wrong.
> B.r.,  David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?
>
>
> > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but
> > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did
> > write my favorite book.
> >
> > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> >
> > > Yar, mate. Thet be the one
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > circumcising
> > > > that's the one.
> > > > tommy loy the cabin boy
> > > > dirty little nipper
> > > > stuffed his ass with broken glass
> > > > and circumcised the skipper
> > > >
> > > > seems painful for both parties.
> > > >
> > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper....
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Biofuels wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter
> > > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter!
> > > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow
> > > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go,
> > > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell
> > > > > International
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > have it!
> > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to:
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > hidden directories.
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> > newest stuff on my home site
> > moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > lord of the minuet.
> > nutty artist axtraordinaire.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:53:30 +1200
>    From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!?
>
> Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a
better
> term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it
> B.r., David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?
>
>
> > I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom
> > Ballads -- eons ago.
> >
> > GN
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
>    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:03:34 -0500
>    From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Sea Shanty
>
> That's it all right. I can't recall the verses.
>
> GN
>
> David Reid wrote:
> >
> > Thought this was from an old British sailors shanty originally. Maybe
> wrong
> > as I dont know or certainly cant remember hearing the whole thing.
Believe
> > if I remember rightly that it seemed to start with the words: "We sailed
> on
> > the good ship Venus, By God you should have seen us ............etc.
Maybe
> > I've got it completely wrong.
> > B.r.,  David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?
> >
> > > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein,
but
> > > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he
did
> > > write my favorite book.
> > >
> > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yar, mate. Thet be the one
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > circumcising
> > > > > that's the one.
> > > > > tommy loy the cabin boy
> > > > > dirty little nipper
> > > > > stuffed his ass with broken glass
> > > > > and circumcised the skipper
> > > > >
> > > > > seems painful for both parties.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Biofuels wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter
> > > > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter!
> > > > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow
> > > > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go,
> > > > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell
> > > > > > International
> > > > > > > > would
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> Message: 10
>    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:09:07 -0500
>    From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Sea shanty
>
> A shanty it was fer sure, and 30 years or more since I heard
> it as well -- 33rpms is a hint.
> Also a duo in a coffee house in Newport Beach played it in
> about 1959.
>
> Memories for sure
>
> GN
>
> David Reid wrote:
> >
> > Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a
> better
> > term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it
> > B.r., David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?
> >
> > > I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom
> > > Ballads -- eons ago.
> > >
> > > GN
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> Message: 11
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:20:10 -0300
>    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: Sea shanty
>
> early 90's for me.
>
> "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote:
>
> > A shanty it was fer sure, and 30 years or more since I heard
> > it as well -- 33rpms is a hint.
> > Also a duo in a coffee house in Newport Beach played it in
> > about 1959.
> >
> > Memories for sure
> >
> > GN
> >
> > David Reid wrote:
> > >
> > > Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a
> > better
> > > term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it
> > > B.r., David
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?
> > >
> > > > I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom
> > > > Ballads -- eons ago.
> > > >
> > > > GN
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> Message: 12
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:11:43 -0400
>    From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
> Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed
> several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive
correspondence
> which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material?
>
> Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to
> limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic material
to
> off list conversation?
>
> Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many people
> in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to maintain
> my sanity in an insane world.
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> Appal Energy
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> Message: 13
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:51:16 -0300
>    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
> maybe another group, biofuelsOT.
>
> Appal Energy wrote:
>
> > Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone
> > noticed
> > several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive
> > correspondence
> > which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic"
> > material?
> >
> > Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt
> > to
> > limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic
> > material to
> > off list conversation?
> >
> > Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many
> > people
> > in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to
> > maintain
> > my sanity in an insane world.
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> > Appal Energy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Message: 14
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:29:20 +0100
>    From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: uk methanol source
>
> So who can supply Methanol at under £100 inc vat for 205 litres here in
the
> uk?
> Ian
>
>
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> Message: 15
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:29:57 +0100
>    From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: methanol reclaiming
>
> Thanks Todd :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol reclaiming
>
>
> > > Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me?
> > ...........
> >
> > Ian,
> >
> > You will have to build yourself an evaporative condenser capable of
> > maintaining a temp of 165 Fahrenheit, slightly above the boiling temp of
> > methanol.
> >
> > It will consist of an airtight "pot" (except for the vaporous outlet
port)
> > of your desired volume, a heat source - open flame unadvisable due to
> > immediate liquid and vaporous methanol - a drain valve for the residual
> > glycerin, a fill valve for introducing the methanol laden glycerin, a
> > continual vaporous outlet off the top of the pot into a cooling
condenser,
> > preferably water cooled.
> >
> > The cooling condenser's drain should be continuous into a "closed"
> > collection container, same container having a vent tube extended well
> > outside and above the building or considerably away from the activity
> (when
> > outside) to vent off all methanol tainted vapors that are positively
> > displaced from the final collection container.
> >
> > The closed system precludes almost entirely the introduction of water
into
> > the recovered methanol via atmospheric humidity.
> >
> > Check the pH of the glycerin and neutralize prior to utilizing the
> glycerin
> > in further endeavors.
> >
> > Todd
> > Appal Energy
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> Message: 16
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:22:33 +0200
>    From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
> I vote for letting people say what they want to say.  Besides, it only
takes
> me ten minutes a day to go thru it all.  Its called a delete button.
>
> Point noted, though!!!
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:12 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
>
> Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed
> several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive
correspondence
> which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material?
>
> Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to
> limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic material
to
> off list conversation?
>
> Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many people
> in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to maintain
> my sanity in an insane world.
>
> Todd Swearingen
> Appal Energy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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> Message: 17
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:22:31 +0200
>    From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: biofuels and gardners
>
> David,
>
> Perhaps you can help me.  I not that you have referred to the ' old
> Gardiners and earlier diesels'.  I have two L8 Gardners in a motor launch
> (ML1200 old 1943 military vessel).  I have been unable to locate Gardners
UK
> for spares.  Do you have any info on this.
>
> By the way, I've started making biodiesal for her use.  Thanks to you
people
> out there.
>
> Second question:  Is there any difference in energy content between, for
> instance, one liter of sunflower biodiesal and one liter of palm oil
> biodiesal?  In other words, is there a better performance in km/liter for
> the better oil?
>
> Mike Brownstone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:20 PM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] vehicles
>
>
> Ed, Steven et al,
>                         T.P. bypass filters are ideal for cleaning diesel
> and other similar fuels as they remove the asphaltine particles which are
> the major cause of combustion soot and other contamination. I sell bypass
> filters especially for this purpose. They are identical to the by-pass oil
> filters except the orifice restriction of 50 thou which is required to
drop
> the velocity so the oil is filtered properly and only a small percentage
is
> bled off at any given time has been opened out or removed  so the diesel
has
> unrestricted flow and is matched to the injector or engine requirement.
They
> also have a tap on the bottom so that the water which separates out and
sits
> on the bottom of the cannister can be regularly bled off. After looking at
> or replacing everyone I have installed I now know all diesel is dirty even
> if it looks perfectly clean to the natural eye. When you see what these
> things remove you can understand why quite a lot of the modern diesels
which
> are built to much finer tolerances dont last anything like the old
Gardiners
> and earlier diesels.
> B.r.,  David
>
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> Message: 18
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:50:33 +0100
>    From: "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: uk methanol source
>
> Yellow pages - Chemicals suppliers
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:24:12 +1200
>    From: "David  Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
> Todd,
>          Thanks for the timely reminder but as someone who tends to be
> serious by nature and takes myself too seriously at times, I need to
escape
> from my seriousness occasionaly, step outside my human frailty and have a
> good laugh at myself and life in general so I remain at least partially
> human. As an old Scotsman said to me years ago "your a long time dead Davy
> boy". As I travel through life I realize your pretty stuffed without a
sense
> of humour so I have always tried to maintain mine. Looking after my folks
> for the last 12 years during the last years of their lives hasnt been easy
> but having a sense of humour has certainly helped and made it that much
> easier.  Looking back I say to myself hell I would never do that again,
> other times I realize how fortunate I was to be the son of two people who
> truly loved one another even if it made me a member of a truly minority
> group of the human race. If we have people who join and leave of their own
> volition I and we cant do anything about it, that is their choice. I just
> hope that they learned and added something to all of us from their time no
> matter how long that is or was. Again thanks for your time, input, help
and
> concern..
> B.r., David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:11 PM
> Subject: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
>
> > Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone
noticed
> > several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive
> correspondence
> > which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material?
> >
> > Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to
> > limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic
material
> to
> > off list conversation?
> >
> > Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many
people
> > in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to
maintain
> > my sanity in an insane world.
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> > Appal Energy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 20
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:31:00 -0300
>    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty
>
> different personal situations, but feelings summed up well.
>
> David Reid wrote:
>
> > Todd,
> >          Thanks for the timely reminder but as someone who tends to be
> >
> > serious by nature and takes myself too seriously at times, I need to
> > escape
> > from my seriousness occasionaly, step outside my human frailty and
> > have a
> > good laugh at myself and life in general so I remain at least
> > partially
> > human. As an old Scotsman said to me years ago "your a long time dead
> > Davy
> > boy". As I travel through life I realize your pretty stuffed without a
> > sense
> > of humour so I have always tried to maintain mine. Looking after my
> > folks
> > for the last 12 years during the last years of their lives hasnt been
> > easy
> > but having a sense of humour has certainly helped and made it that
> > much
> > easier.  Looking back I say to myself hell I would never do that
> > again,
> > other times I realize how fortunate I was to be the son of two people
> > who
> > truly loved one another even if it made me a member of a truly
> > minority
> > group of the human race. If we have people who join and leave of their
> > own
> > volition I and we cant do anything about it, that is their choice. I
> > just
> > hope that they learned and added something to all of us from their
> > time no
> > matter how long that is or was. Again thanks for your time, input,
> > help and
> > concern..
> > B.r., David
>
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