Shukrainternationals wrote: >Tell me about that! >How can we retain jobs here if we have everything in Wal Mart and >such big stores (even small ones) have Made in China. GO and check >Wal-Mart and try to find one thing made in USA. >BUYER, BEWARE! Your Job is at stake!
Um, who are you blaming? China? Did you look into who kept pushing MFN status for China? Do you know what people are saying about Wal-Mart? http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12962 How Wal-Mart is Remaking our World The idea of this thread seems to be that trade is bad. It isn't, necessarily, it depends how it's rigged. Rigged it most certainly is, especially "fair" trade. On whose behalf, at whose expense? Not a simple matter. The so-called "anti-globalisation" campaigners are not anti-globalisation at all, they accept globalisation as a fact. They're anti-corporate globalisation, a different matter. Anti-WTO, anti-NAFTA, anti-IMF. For sound reasons, based on sound information and data. They include environmentalists, human rights activists, Third World development agencies, and, indeed, labour organisations, including US labour, and economists. The movement is itself globalised, with active membership from all continents and all regions, north and south, west and east, rich and poor countries. Thirty years ago the talk was of the global village. Yes. Now it's of the global boardroom. No - then the labour market becomes a downhill slide to the lowest pay and the worst conditions. It has to be people-centred, like everything else. People live in villages. Even in cities - call them neighbourhoods, but no matter how dysfunctional they might be (for the same reasons?), they're still more like villages than boardrooms. Alternative fuels go hand-in-hand with this approach - community-centred initiatives, local self-reliance, bioregionalism. And that all goes perfectly well with a different kind of globalisation that includes truly fair trade. If your import-substitution is to be at the behest of folks like Wal-Mart, or indeed the likes of ADM etc if you're talking of alternative fuels, it probably won't do American jobs and communities very much good. Substituting foreign oil with American oil won't do much good either. Studies showing that drilling the ANWR would create hundreds of thousands of jobs were a snow-job. Better studies found less than a tenth that many jobs would be created. But that's what you should expect from the oil companies. "If one is concerned with jobs as a key objective, [the oil industry] is probably one of the poorest choices one can make to invest, of almost any industry." See: http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/2001/09/18/index.html Looking For Jobs In All The Wrong Places Renewable energy really can create jobs though, to everybody's benefit, not just S. Robson Walton's, at everyone else's expense, Americans and Chinese alike. Keith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Addison > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:52 AM > Subject: [biofuel] RE: Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again > > > >I was thinking. If we lose that many jobs whenever we > >buy foreign products, what does that say about buying > >everything electronic from ("made in")china?? > > Maybe. > > >Or the > >millions of Cars we buy from Germany and Japan (or > >Korea for that matter)?? > > Maybe not - Alan Petrillo posted an article a while back about car > companies merging, which showed that some of the "foreign" cars are > more American than the American cars. > > >Chrysler was recently bought > >out from Daimiler-Benz wasn't it?? > > "The U.S. tax system puts global companies at a decisive > disadvantage," John Loffredo, the vice president and chief tax > counsel for Chrysler and its successor, DaimlerChrysler, told a > hearing of the House Ways and Means Committee on June 30, 1999, just > 20 years after his predecessors had gone, hat in hand, to beg > Congress for a bailout. "This issue became a major concern and when > the time came to choose whether the new company should be a U.S. > company or a foreign company, management chose a company organized > under the laws of Germany." > > http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm?ID=4190 > Chrysler Opted Out Of Taxes > Adapted From The Book, The Cheating Of America > > >Have you opened up a subject that could be expanded to > >other things?? > > But I think it's not so simple. > > Best > > Keith > > >Thanks for getting me thinking!! > > > >Curtis > > > > > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I read somewhere that for every million dollars we > >spend to buy foreign products we lose so many jobs in > >the US. I forget the numbers but it was staggering > >how many jobs are lost because of America's dependence > >on foreign oil. I would have to think that this would > >include MTBE from Canada as well. The people who wrote > >this report didn't say just jobs in the Midwest or on > >the coasts. Just that they were American jobs. Even > >if it was only produced in the Midwest it would be > >good for the whole country. > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why are there no ethanol plants in NY,CA? does > > > nothing grow in these > > > >states???? Do they not have ports to import "cheap" > > > corn to make ETOH? > > > >Does California produce all their own dino-fuel, or > > > did they support > > > >building a pipeline down from Alaska. > > > > > > > >I think there ought to be an added tax on any > > > Ethanol shipped out of > > > >a state else the people that paid for these plants > > > are not going to > > > >realize the cost savings of local production. Why > > > doesn't CA have > > > >enough ethanol plants, the Federal Gov't has been > > > begging and paying > > > >for them for a while and its only getting better. > > > > > > > >Come on "Coasties" put on your thinking caps and > > > figure out ways to > > > >make ethanol and biodiesel and get with the > > > program. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
