If the definition by democracy is the will of the people and not the US republic democracy, you will be surprised if you sum them up. You will also be surprised of how many non-democracies that are supported by US. On the issue of corruption and manipulation, some of our most known democracies are quite good on that too.
Hakan At 09:44 AM 11/9/2002 +0300, you wrote: >For Hakan to be right about the UN the states that are members would have >to, at least the majority, be democracies and as that is not the case in >the vast majority of members it causes the concept to not work and is one >of the main causes of the ongoing failures of the UN to get much done. When >you are made up of corrupt states it is hard to not be corrupt. > >Best regards, >Vern > > > > > > csakima > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: > biofuel@yahoogroups.com > net> cc: > > Subject: [biofuel] > There's gotta be a better way Was: BP now > 11/09/02 08:12 AM Direct > Democracy > Please respond > to > biofuel > > > > > > > > > > "... somewhat represent a world democracy is UN"?? "Democracy must be >shown at a global level to survive"?? > >Pardon if I offend anyone on this list ... but the concept of a "world >democracy" makes me very nervous. It, by the way it is sometimes talked >about, implies in an unsaid way .... the existence of a so-called >"global-level government". ... to which "all" so-called "governments" must >implicitly be subserveant to its "global-level rules". > >This would to me imply that, in the same way we in America have a >City-n-County level .... State Government level ... and Federal Government >level, there would be a new level ... a "Global" Government level..... to >which our "President" (Clinton/Bush/Etc) would relate as a "Governor" does >to a "President". Only in this case it would be ... what .. a "Global >President".?? > >And then what?? Would President Vladamir Putin also be a "Governor"?? Of >the Russian Region?? Would Arafat be a "Governor"?? Of the Palestinian >"region"?? > >Then countries wouldn't be countries anymore ... but only "States" (with >"Governors") .... in a what?? A "Global Country"?? The "one-world >country"?? > >What would happen to our illustrious document .... the Constitution?? > >I ....... dunno .... Hakan. I see where you're coming from ... and I >understand what you mean. But I'm not sure if "that's" the way to handle >it. It sets a very eerie precedence. And makes me very nervous. > >Curtis > > >Get your free newsletter at >http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Now we have democracies based on countries and different organizations of >appointment of governments. The only body that somewhat represent a world >democracy is UN. I really hope that we can show respect this time and not >repeat history. Democracy will not work, if we do not introduce it on a >world wide basis and condemn any kind of occupation. > >Democracy must be shown at a global level to survive. The way that US and >some others behave is by no definition to describe as international >democracy. We must nurture and respect UN as a body at any cost, otherwise >we will repeat history and democracy becomes a theatric farce. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
