That is more than enough of this thread thankyou. I've hinted, asked, others have complained, people are taking no notice.
Any further posts on this thread will get the poster suspended. Keith Addison Moderator >Chris, > >As far as Bill Clinton is concerned, he was painted with the "Wag the Dog" >paint brush by Republicans when he suggested that it may be necessary to >engage Iraq during the latter part of his administration. One of the most >vocal in this critisism was Rep.Dick Armey of Texas. Who was being >unpatriotic then? No one. Just as now. > >Bill C. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "TexasTDI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:51 PM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics > > > > I'm not perfect. And I don't walk away from a fight. I guess I'm not a > > true Christian because I don't "turn the other cheek". > > > > In 1998 Democrats said Hussein was a global threat. Yet for some reason > > that only Klinton knows, Klinton didn't go after him. > > > > Now we finally have a President that has the backbone to take on Iraq. > > Single-handedly if he must. And now these same Democrats that thought > > Hussein was a global threat in 1998 want my proof before they'll back >Bush. > > Where's the logic in that? > > > > When I speak of Democrats, I'm speaking of Democrats of today. JFK was > > probably the only Democrat that had a spine. He wasn't afraid to take on > > Russia during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He stared Russia in the eye until > > Russia blinked. > > > > FDR was a typical Democrat. While Germany was attacking all of Europe, he > > did nothing. Even when Churchill BEGGED for support he did nothing. >Until > > finally he lent Britain a few ships. (Mighty big of him, don't you >think?) > > He chose to not really get involved until Pearl Harbor. Then he finally > > fought back. > > > > 9/11 was Pearl Harbor for the 21st century. Bush want to attack, yet the > > Democrats did everything in their power to stop him. Now, they're > > unemployed thanks to the American people. > > > > Churchill warned the world that Hitler was a global threat, but nobody > > listened. Now Bush warns Hussein is a global threat, and again nobody is > > listening. When will we ever learn? > > Chris Thornton > > 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles > > 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles > > 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE > > Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 > > http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > I needed to establish a set of prnciples that we both could agree on. >You > > > believe that Jesus is your savior and, for the sake of expidiency, I >will > > > assume that Jesus' words should guide your life. While I may disagree on > > the > > > nature of God and Jesus, I believe in Jesus' example. I believe that > > Jesus' > > > words are words to live by. > > > > > > First I want to address the idea that Democrats are unpatriotic. Max > > Cleland > > > of Georgia, a Democrat, gave up some of his limbs fighting this nations > > > battles. Thousands of fellow Democrats did likewise. Many more thousands > > of > > > democrats faced death in battle. Of course, there were many Republicans > > and > > > others there as well. There are also many living Democrats who fought in > > > WWII as well as Korea and any other modern American conflict you wish to > > > choose. Unless you have a combat infantry badge or have lost a limb in > > > battle, you owe many if not all of those men and women an apology. If >you > > do > > > or have, preach on. > > > > > > Now as to your belief in Republicans and fighting, you seem to have > > > conflicting values. > > > > > > "I go to Sunday school and Sunday > > > worship at church, I believe in Jesus as our saviour..." > > > > > > Jesus speaking to the zealots discouraged them from fighting, even >though > > > they lived in an occupied land. He went as far as to suggest that they > > > should love the Romans. It seems to me that his whole philosophy was >about > > > non-violence and sacrifice for a peaceful world. > > > > > > "And diplomacy is the weapon of the cowardly." > > > > > > Meaning, I suppose, that fighting is a better way. Directly opposite of > > your > > > savior's words. So, are you a christian or a warrior? I ask this because >I > > > see many Republicans who think that anyone who questions this president >is > > > anti-american. Then they act with such christian piety, declaring the >rest > > > of us unfit to have an opinion. Well "What would Jesus do?" never seemed >a > > > better question to ask. You patriots in the Republican party should >study > > on > > > that. > > > > > > Bill C. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "TexasTDI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:08 PM > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics > > > > > > > > > > Depends on your definition of a Christain. I go to Sunday school and > > > Sunday > > > > worship at church, I believe in Jesus as our saviour, etc. > > > > > > > > But I also curse on occation and do enjoy a good German beer once in a > > > > while. And I'm not afraid of a fight. I don't "turn the other >cheek". > > I > > > > fight for my beliefs and I'm not afraid to speak my mind no matter who > > it > > > > may offend. > > > > > > > > Chris Thornton > > > > 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles > > > > 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles > > > > 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE > > > > Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 > > > > http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "William Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:26 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if you considered yourself to be a christian. I > > am > > > > not, > > > > > but , I spent most of my 45 years in the christian church. I have > > more > > > to > > > > > say but will wait for clarification on this. > > > > > > > > > > Bill C. 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