Sorry, I just had to responde to something you said about the DIY'rs sullying the "image" of BD??!!
In this last weekends class we did a little homebrew test for quality against commerce BD and a batch from the Berkley co-op and they were about the same. If anything, the commerce BD that gets sent for ASTM and EPA testing is prolly from a VERY carefully processed batch, whereas most homebrew is carefully processed with each batch out of necessity (more lovingly ;-) ). I wouldn't say all homebrewers are that concerned with their batches, but to be a DIY'r is in itself a passion, and thus usually more concerned. James Slayden On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Andrew Hoppin wrote: <snip> > help? Or could they be authentically concerned that a small producer > making > some mistake in production will sully the image of biodiesel? Other > possibilities? Regardless, if you can identify what the root of their > problem is, then whether that root cause seems silly or not, and > regardless <snip> > Cheers, > Andrew > > ---------------------------------------------------- > The Biofuel Business Development Project > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ > Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact > On the Long-Range Future of Humanity > > > Message: 12 > > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:23:08 +0900 > > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: more info on the NBB and the soy subsidy > > > > Hello Andrew > > > > >I'm would prefer to see a decentralized industry of small producers as > > well, > > >but my bias is that if we're really going to make a near-term > > difference in > > >our world in terms of energy security and environmental protection and > > >public health with biodiesel, we need to support any and all > > companies that > > >are willing to produce and distribute biodiesel, small and large. > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Andrew > > > > Um, at the cost of having homebrewers dispensed with by means of a > > load of BS about us being nothing but a peril who'll bring it all to > > naught unless we're controlled? Or at least kept firmly in our place > > (our own backyards)? Though we can be useful... Check back and you'll > > see that that's basically what Mr Noyes of World Energy was saying. > > He was asked how many times? Three? Four? - to substantiate his > > claims that substandard-spec homebrew had caused widespread problems > > and industry had had to clean up the mess after us. He evaded the > > question each time. He can't substantiate it because it's BS. Not the > > only thing he evaded. If you think that will at least stop him making > > such unsubstantiated claims, even if he can't quite bring himself to > > withdraw them, don't hold your breath. > > > > Noyes, and others like him, couldn't cope with what we actually are > > and what we do, as opposed to his patronising idea of us. Have a look > > at how he handled the possibility of collaboration with us, > > laughable. It's on his terms or nothing, just like the other World > > Energy guy who wasted our time with this talk. We're more useful than > > these people, and it's them who make it an either-or question, not us. > > > > We're not against industry, that would be foolish, but there's > > industry and then there's industry. It's not a case of small vs > > large, there's room and need for both, as you say. Some of the big > > companies are just fine, no problem at all working with them. But > > frankly I think the world needs the likes of World Energy like it > > needs a hole in the head. > {snip} > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
