> Permaculture is a design system, not a farming system. Which is not
> to knock it. But,IMO, you'd do better to start with the work of
> Howard and the founders of organic growing, or at least add it to
> permaculture. 

I think this is underrating Permaculture a bit. It IS a system, that can be 
used for many Sustainable purposes. The Design section is just one part of 
the overall picture. 
        Permaculture is an adaptation of Peasant agriculture systems, so is 
more 
than Organic agriculture, as it tends to look at the overall planning of the 
integration of systems, & tries to keep systems self sustaining (like a 
Forest) as much as possible. (This last point is incredibly hard to develop, 
but is an aim.)
Doug (Another Aussie like Bill Mollison.)

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