Hi David,

You are correct that they do not have extra fuel beyond the plan for the
mission (they do carry some % of extra just as airlines do for a small
contingency reserve) but in this case "if they had known that the shuttle
was not safe to return to earth" they would still have the "Retro Burn"
fuel which is substantial and I believe it would be plenty to have made the
adjustments to orbit needed to rendezvous with the Intl. Space Station.
Note I said rendezvous not dock as it was pointed out yesterday that they
did not carry a docking adapter. It would not have been fun but they could
have parked very near the space station and the current space station crew
has the EVA suits and jet packs that would have permitted the crew to be
moved from the shuttle to the space station in their "Pumpkin Suits". They
would have to disconnect from life support at the shuttle and live on the
trapped air in the suit for the few minutes it would take to move them from
the shuttle to the space station. Yes this would be very much out of the
box thinking similar to what was used to save the Apollo crew when their
ship had the major blow out.

Interestingly the then largest problem would be finding a way to safely
move the shutle away from the space station and then to find a way to have
it deorbit on its own to reduce the space junk problem caused by this large
a vehical.

Have a good day.

Best regards,
Vern





 I believe that they dont take a bunch of extra fuel around just in case
they
need to get to any object in the earths orbit.
Its not like they can just fill up at a station along the way.
<although this is interesting, they could leave refueling items at various
places in orbit, should this need to happen.
I don't know about how long items can stay there like that, or if that is
really safe though.. a bunch of things waiting to go off like that>

They are at different altitudes and different locations.Ê If they arent
going to take a jet pack for emergencies because of the extra fuel
involved,
I don't think they will bring along a large amount of extra fuel, just in
case.

Also, they had already been up there quite a while.Ê They take along X
amount of Air also.bringing alot of extra costs a lot.

just my two cents.. but then again,, I am no rocket scientist.

And even then.. this is assuming that they knew there was a real issue.Ê if
they *did* i am certain they would have had 'last messages' etc.. just in
case they didnt make it.

and I dont beleive they can just flop another shuttle up there on a days
notice, even if one was not currently being inspected for things, being
upgraded..etc.


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If they had determined in space that the Shuttle was not safe to return to
earth the move would have been to send them to the Intl. Space Station
where they could have docked and just sat it out until we could send a
different shuttle to get most of them and if there were still two left up
there in the Intl. Space Station they could be brought back in one of the
Russian ships as they have three seats and can be flown by one person. They
may also have been able to stay until the second shuttle arrival if that
was determined to be the better solution. Keeping in mind that if the
Columbia had been determined to be unsafe in space we may not have felt
that it was required to ground the fleet until we have clear answers as to
what the cause is and we would know the problem and cause from the
information that was developed to determine that they should not try the
reentry in it.


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