Say Dom, Did you bother to look at the entire thread? Or are you the new self- appointed Topic-Cop?
fred --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Domenick V. Amato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why don't you move your discussions to a group for which it is appropriate? > You are certainly entitled to what ever political opinions you have and you > are entitled to speak whatever you like. This, however, is NOT the place > for it. It is SPAM relative to the topics for which this group is > organized. To the extent that you continue with this political > self-indulgence, you damage the purpose of this group. > > Dom Amato > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the > RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world. > > > > As long as you care to stick your head in the sand you'll never find one, > > nor realize that this group is about as good as it gets short of breaking > > Biofuel down into individual sub-sets. > > > > Switching lists will not make biofuel of any sort any less "political," as > > you would care to put it. It's your own politics that draw you into the > > field in the first place. > > > > Get over it or get out of it. Meanwhile, the rest of the world has a great > > stake in how international administrations handle issues that determine > > control and use of fossil fuels. Oddly enough, that includes "war and > > rumours of war." > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:19 PM > > Subject: RE: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the > > RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world. > > > > > > > To whom it may concern: > > > > > > I am leaving this "news group" because it is anything but a news group > > about > > > biofuel. I was hoping to learn a lot, but unfortunately it takes too > long > > > to sort through the unrelated emails. Does anyone know of a good > > discussion > > > group where they stick to the subject matter and actually discuss > > producing > > > biofuels and alternate energy sources. If so please let me know. I > would > > > love to get involved. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:03 PM > > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the > > > > RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 13:41 > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the > > > > RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg, > > > > > > > > > > Compared to Iraq, North Korea are able and probably more > > > > > disciplined/motivated and a lot more dangerous than the Iraqi army. > > > > > I do no want to do any clear cut final military judgement, but it is > > > > > my opinion. The threat is also of more geographical nature. They > > > > > have WMDs, they are known to be in the arms business and are > > > > > more likely to sell WMDs than Iraq. > > > > > > > > You are not joking there. I think the fact that North Korea has been > > for > > > > the most part quiet, is a factor of why were more willing to > negotiate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It is not too difficult to wage war against a nation with 80% of > the > > > > > population under 16 and suppressed women. What a formidable global > > > > > threat to the heroic US of A. Take away the old men and the crippled > > > > > from previous wars and it is only less than 10% of the population > left > > > > > to consider. The 5% that are left after the heroic US war, will be > the > > > > > ones who vote in a "democratic society". It will be some time before > > > > > women and children, the orphans and widows, get the right to vote > > > > > and a majority will be violently anti American. I am sure that > > Hollywood > > > > > will be able to disguise the realities long enough to give the > > Americans > > > > > the "be good feeling" and also make quite a few bucks when they > > > > > do it. Realities will come another day." > > > > > > > > Perhaps, but, I can't help but wonder if we can help make things > > > > better for > > > > them in the end, if we go in or not, the question will remain. I look > > at > > > > Germany and Japan, and how they were rebuilt from the end of WW2 > > > > and wonder > > > > if in 30 to 50 years if Iraq will be in a similar situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a war against a majority of children and women the preferred > choice > > > > > or a little bit more patience. In my opinion a war is not a > > > > solution, but > > > > > a proof of failure. The US hysteria about the risk that Iraq would > do > > > > > something to them, are more based assumed revenge feelings with > > > > > the Iraqis, than any facts. Iraq have never, what I know about, > > attacked > > > > > or performed a terrorist act against US. Does anyone seriously think > > > > > that a new war would remove the basis for the fear? > > > > > > > > I think that to some extent it might. After talking with some people > > this > > > > past weekend, the thought was expressed, that America at this > > > > point has been > > > > hurt badly by 9/11, might be lashing out of fear as well pain. > Perhaps > > > > while it may not remove the basis for fear, it may be removing the > > > > appearance / feeling of fear and pain. Iraq for good or for ill > > > > has been a > > > > PITA on and off for the last 10+ years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion is that Iraq's major threat to the world and especially > for > > > > > the developed countries, lays in the oil reserves. Not a threat to > be > > > > > discarded and one that need to be taken care of. It amplify the > > > > > need of solving the Iraqi disarmament and incorporation in the world > > > > > community very fast. The way it will be done, will have an effect on > > > > > the financial interests of corporations and nations. Since Saddam > > > > > Hussein is a proponent of an Arab oil blockade to solve the Israeli > > > > > situation, he is very dangerous. You have to note that the urgency > > > > > of dealing with him, appeared after his promotion of a new oil > > > > > blockade and that Iraq even stopped oil deliveries for a while. He > > > > > did not get the support from the other oil producers that he hoped > > > > > for, but only that he brought it up is bad enough. > > > > > > > > True. How do you deal with someone like him them? Run one hell > > > > of a bluff > > > > and be prepared to hit him hard if he calls you on it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you consider the data that are available and the above, a result > of > > > > > the Iran war and the Gulf war, what is your opinion? If you look at > > the > > > > > situation with US/UK who are locked out from winning oil contracts. > Is > > > > > it an immediate WMD threat or distribution of oil interests? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a bad dream. The oil makes things a lot more difficult to > evaluate > > > > properly. Is there a WOMD problem with Iraq? I see it as possible, > > even > > > > probable. Does the oil enter in to it? Very probable. Is > > > > oil, the only > > > > reason that the US wants to go in? I don't know. I have a > > > > degree a doubt > > > > about that aspect. I find my self second guessing the situation all > the > > > > time. I'm of two minds about the whole thing. > > > > > > > > I can't help but wonder at times if this is not one of the > > > > biggest bluffs of > > > > all time. There are times that I hope that is all it is. > > > > > > > > Greg H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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