It just blows me away .. how much focus ... and focus ... and focus ... is put on "how bad Saddam is". Or "lookey what sneaky thing Iraq is doing". Notice that each sentence ends with "and that's why we need this WAR". "And that's why we need this WAR". I SAID .... "AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS WAR!!"
I am NOT "Saddam's best friend". Yet I see this. I have not seen a single bomb with Iraqi writing on it ... ever drop on US soil. I have not seen a single Iraqi F15 Phantom Fighter ... loaded with heatseekers ... ever come within a thousand miles of California or New York. I have not seen a single Iraqi amphibious command boat ... loaded with Iraqi soldiers ... ever spotted in American Waters heading for our shores. Their cruise missile ... so many Kilometer overranged ... doesn't even threaten US airspace. In other words .... I don't see any "defense mode justification" kicking in. Not obviously anyways. All "I" see ... is a lot of Economic problems on the Homefront. Every State of the Union running a Deficit. Corruption of every kind running amuck. Enron's ... WorldCom's ... everywhere. NorthWest Airlines ... asking for a "bail out". Poverty ... Chicago Slums.... Los Angeles Smog. CAFE and Emission loopholes encouraging the wrong kinds of vehicles to be (or not be) manufactured. The trade deficit looms. The National Debt .. looms. And lastly YES ... our foreign DEPENDENCE .... is like WAY too high!! (gotta connect it to biofuels somehow!!). I dunno about ALL you guys (not picking on harley .. at all) .... but I was always brought up with the notion that ... before commenting on "some other guy's way of running his household" .. "GET YOUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER". And our "house" ... is DEFINITELY .. NOT in order!!!!!!!! Now don't get me wrong ... I'm NOT heartless. I'm NOT immune ... to the cry of an Iraqi mother (or grandmother). I don't RELISH the thought of "some madman" ... terrorizing his own people. But being at another countries backyard IN THE FACE of that countries business .... right now seems to be like trying to offer a neighbor help .... while a kitchen fire in your own home has caught on to a drapery and threatens to burn down your house. To me .. at present ... we seem to be in too many people's business ... while all the while OUR OWN HOME .... is in shambles. Especially, as I have mentioned, in the area of foreign dependence. I dunno ... that's what gets me ... whenever I hear ads trying to pull my heartstrings ... implying "why" we "need" this war. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL ----- Original Message ----- From: harley3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020916-28573872.htm Iraqi scientist says materials for nuclear bombs in hand By Paul Martin THE WASHINGTON TIMES LONDON - Iraq is already using copies of pirated German equipment to process nuclear material for an atomic weapons program, according to a former Iraqi nuclear scientist who testified before the U.S. Senate this summer. That study concluded that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's regime could make an atomic bomb within months if it succeeded in acquiring the necessary nuclear fuel from an outside source. But Mr. Hamza said Iraq already has....... "This means, unless he's stopped soon, Saddam will have set up a whole nuclear bomb industry, not just have made a couple of bombs," he said. ----- Original Message ----- From: harley3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-taheri022603.asp February 26, 2003, 10:00 a.m. Voice of Iraqis Why don't antiwar types want to hear them? By Amir Taheri The Iraqis had come with placards reading "Freedom for Iraq" and "American rule, a hundred thousand times better than Takriti tyranny!" "These people are mad," said Awad Nasser, one of Iraq's most famous modernist poets. "They are actually signing up to sacrifice their lives to protect a tyrant's death machine." The former film star, now a Labor party member of parliament, had no time for "side issues" such as the 1.2 million Iraqis, Iranians, and Kuwaitis who have died as a result of Saddam's various wars. But was it not amazing that there could be a rally about Iraq without any mention of what Saddam and his regime have done over almost three decades? Just a little hint, perhaps, that Saddam was still murdering people in his Qasr al-Nayhayah (Palace of the End) prison, and that as the Westerners marched, Iraqis continued to die? We then ran into Tony Benn, a leftist septuagenarian who has recycled himself as a television reporter to interview Saddam in Baghdad. But we knew there was no point in talking to him. The previous night he had appeared on TV to tell the Brits that his friend Saddam was standing for "the little people" against "hegemonistic America." The Iraqis would had much to tell the "antiwar" marchers, had they had a chance to speak. Fadel Sultani, president of the National Association of Iraqi authors, would have told the marchers that their action would encourage Saddam to intensify his repression. "I had a few questions for the marchers," Sultani said. "Did they not realize that oppression, torture and massacre of innocent civilians are also forms of war? Are the antiwar marchers only against a war that would liberate Iraq, or do they also oppose the war Saddam has been waging against our people for a generation?" "The death and destruction caused by Saddam in our land is the worst since Nebuchadnezzar," he said. "These prosperous, peaceful, and fat Europeans are marching in support of evil incarnate." He said that, watching the march, he felt Nazism was "alive and well and flexing its muscles in Hyde Park." Abdel-Majid Khoi, son of the late Grand Ayatollah Khoi, Iraq's foremost religious leader for almost 40 years, spoke of the "deep moral pain" he feels when hearing the so-called " antiwar" discourse. "The Iraqi nation is like a man who is kept captive and tortured by a gang of thugs," Khoi said. "The proper moral position is to fly to help that man liberate himself and bring the torturers to book. But what we witness in the West is the opposite: support for the torturers and total contempt for the victim." Khoi said he would say ahlan wasahlan (welcome) to anyone who would liberate Iraq. "When you are being tortured to death you are not fussy about who will save you," he said. Ismail Qaderi, a former Baathist official but now a dissident, wanted to tell the marchers how Saddam systematically destroyed even his own party, starting by murdering all but one of its 16 original leaders. "Those who see Saddam as a symbol of socialism, progress, and secularism in the Arab world must be mad," he said. Khalid Kishtaini, Iraq's most famous satirical writer, added his complaint. "Don't these marchers know that the only march possible in Iraq under Saddam Hussein is from the prison to the firing-squad?" he asked. "The Western marchers behave as if the US wanted to invade Switzerland, not Iraq under Saddam Hussein." Let us hope that when Iraq is liberated, as it soon will be, the world will remember that it was not done in the name of Rev. Jackson, Charles Kennedy, Glenda Jackson, Tony Benn, and their companions in a march of shame. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
