Thanks for the geography lesson, i realy should be
more up on things like that. Unfortunatly i think the
mazda tranny is different. Thanks for the offer!
Jason Gnatowsky
--- bratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been offered a diesel from a 1984 Mazda truck
> and two transmissions for $350 Canadian.  I don't
> know the owner, and fear that the motor might be
> junk.  Probably comes with the transmission you
> need.
> 
> Regina, Sask is in Western Canada.  You can find out
> where by going here:
> 
>
http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=mmfn&&tpid=1&&&&dchg=&&zz=1048692854040&;
> 
> 
> EdB
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: jgnat1488 
>   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:38 AM
>   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators
> 
> 
>   unfortunatly a gas chevette transmission will not
>   work. It is an isuzu M75 (i think). Thanks for the
>   offer. I feel stupid for asking bu where is
> Regina,
>   Sask?
>   --- bratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   > Do you need a standard Chevette transmission?  I
>   > have a five speed Chevette transmission, from a
> gas
>   > engined Chevette.  Where are you located?  I am
> in
>   > Regina, Sask.
>   > 
>   > There is an interesting conversion of a 2 hp
>   > Induction motor taken off Taiwanese Mill into an
>   > alternator on a wind power plant at
>   > http://www.otherpower.com/danb_windmill.html
>   > 
>   > EdB
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: jgnat1488 
>   >   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:43 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Could you elaborate more on the 3phase motors?
> I
>   > may
>   >   have a line on an old 9hp 3phase motor and it
> is
>   >   looking like i may be using the newly aquiered
>   >   chevette for an angine and nothing else (can't
>   > find a
>   >   tranny). My future plans are to be self
> sufficient
>   > for
>   >   power and this is one way i may (and likely
> will)
>   > go. 
>   >   Thanks
>   >   Jason Gnatowsky
>   >   --- Ken Basterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>   >   > Martin, and Darryl,
>   >   > 
>   >   > It depends on what type of motor and how you
>   > connect
>   >   > it. If it is a
>   >   > commutator or 'universal' motor i.e. it will
> run
>   > on
>   >   > ac or dc, then it will
>   >   > generate if rotated fast enough. However the
>   >   > commutator is effectively a
>   >   > rectifier so you would only get dc out. The
> old
>   >   > motor car dynamo is a
>   >   > commutator motor, now of course superseded
> by
>   > the
>   >   > alternator.
>   >   > 
>   >   > Induction motors, which run on ac only, can
> be
>   > made
>   >   > to generate provided
>   >   > they are run faster than their nominal
>   > synchronous
>   >   > speed.  E.g. a 4 pole( 2
>   >   > north, 2 south poles) motor will have a 
>   > synchronous
>   >   > speed would be 1500 rpm
>   >   > calculated from 50 (cycles per second) *60 (
>   > seconds
>   >   > in a minute) / 2 ( the
>   >   > number of pairs of poles).
>   >   > It will not however,  motor at synchronous
> speed
>   >  as
>   >   > the rotor needs to slip
>   >   > to generate even enough power to rotate it's
> own
>   >   > rotor mass without any
>   >   > load. The rated speed is about 1420 rpm (
> about
>   > 80
>   >   > rpm slower than
>   >   > synchronous speed ) at full load off 50Hz,
> but
>   >   > drawing a significant lagging
>   >   > power factor.
>   >   > 
>   >   > A 6 pole motor would have a synchronous
> speed of
>   >   > 1000rpm with rated full
>   >   > load speed at about 930rpm.
>   >   > Scale all the speeds by 60/50 for 60Hz
> operation
>   >   > 
>   >   > The true synchronous motor is called an
>   > alternator
>   >   > and they are few and far
>   >   > between if you are on the scrounge, but they
> are
>   >   > what you get in a pucka
>   >   > genset.
>   >   > 
>   >   > Back to the common induction motor, if you
> run a
>   > 4
>   >   > pole motor  at say
>   >   > 1580rpm off 50Hz ( faster than synchronous
> speed
>   > )
>   >   > it will deliver current
>   >   > provided it is connect to a 50 Hz supply,
> and
>   > there
>   >   > is the difficulty in
>   >   > trying to use it as a free standing
> generator.
>   > It
>   >   > needs to draw a small 50
>   >   > Hz magnetising current from the mains supply
> to
>   >   > allow it to deliver power
>   >   > back into the mains supply. It is then
> called an
>   >   > induction generator.
>   >   > 
>   >   > Induction generators have specific
> applications
>   >   > where they are very useful
>   >   > e.g in hydro electric pumped stations where
> the
>   >   > purpose is to use the head
>   >   > of water in a high reservoir for supply
> system 
>   > load
>   >   > topping ( assist
>   >   > conventional generating sets when on max
> load
>   > --e.g
>   >   > 7a.m to 9a.m.)  The
>   >   > water descends turning a turbine which
> rotates
>   > the
>   >   > induction  motor ( as a
>   >   > generator to add power to the system ). 
> When
>   > the
>   >   > supply system is on
>   >   > minimum load e.g. in the afternoon, the
> motor is
>   >   > taking power out of the
>   >   > system to pump the water back up to the top
>   >   > reservoir awaiting the next peak
>   >   > demand. All this is economically necessary
> since
>   > it
>   >   > tales such a long time
>   >   > to get generating capacity on stream or to
> shut
>   > it
>   >   > down. It is a sort off
>   >   > flywheel in which energy can be added when
> spare
>   > and
>   >   > extracted when needed.
>   >   > 
>   >   > Another application once quite common is to
>   > supply
>   >   > leading power factor
>   >   > current to offset the normally lagging power
>   > factor
>   >   > load. It is called power
>   >   > factor correction and induction generators
> do it
> 
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