Before this thread gets lost in the archives, I just wanted to let everyone
know that:    THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT "ONLINE DEMOCRACY"
(WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AWHILE BACK) "WILL NOT WORK!!"

This is because, although aLL person(s) voted, all votes are sent to a
central place "to be counted" ... "without paper trail".   This would allow
the "fox" (powers that be) to "watch (or in this case, own) the chicken
coop" (the precious votes).   And you want to extend this horrific concept
to a global level??   OH!!  Jingle Bells ... Jingle Bells .. Jingle all the
way...........         Global One World Government .... all of us subject to
a "global president" .. conveniently, "DEMOCRATICALLY" voted into office
with "Online Voting" ... courteously provided by Jeb Bush, Inc.    'Tis the
season to be jolly, fa-la .....................

And this thing about "Corporate Constitutional Rights".     First human
beings get whacked with butts of rifles as "unlawful combatants" (which you
know, ALL Americans citizenships will be reduced to eventually) .... and now
this .. Corporations get elevated to "God created beings" with
"Constitutional Rights".

Sheesh ......

Curtis

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----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bit rushed, but will this do?

 http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15332

Which Corporation Owns Your Vote?

By Thom Hartmann, AlterNet
March 6, 2003

-----------snip-------------

But in the November 2002 election, when some Florida voters pressed the
touch-screen "button" for Bush's Democratic opponent, votes were instead
recorded for Bush. "Misaligned" touch-screen voting machines were blamed for
the computer-driven vote-theft, and when a losing candidate in Palm Beach
sued to inspect the software of Florida's computerized voting machines, a
local judge denied the petition, citing the privacy rights of the
corporation that wrote the programs.

-----------snip-----------

Although there is a certification process for ensuring the honesty of votes
tabulated by computerized, touch-screen voting machines, according to
Spillane the system works "very much like Arthur Andersen in the Enron
case."

--------------------snip--------------

The <new voting> machines generate no paper trail that can be audited, and
when voting machine companies have been challenged to produce audits of
their vote or to disclose details of their software, they cite the privacy
rights that come from corporations being considered "persons" in the United
States.

---------snip---------

When the railroad suggested to the Supreme Court that the Fourteenth
Amendment, which freed the slaves by guaranteeing all persons equal
protection under the law regardless of race, had also freed corporations
because they should be considered "persons" just like humans, the attorney
for Santa Clara County, Delphin M. Delmas, fought back ferociously.

"The shield behind which [the Southern Pacific Railroad] attacks the
Constitution and laws of California is the Fourteenth Amendment," said
Delmas before the Supreme Court. "It argues that the Amendment guarantees to
every person within the jurisdiction of the State the equal protection of
the laws; that a corporation is a person; that, therefore, it must receive
the same protection as that accorded to all other persons in like
circumstances."

--------snip--------

The purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment, passed just after the Civil War,
was clear, Delmas said. "Its mission was to raise the humble, the
down-trodden, and the oppressed to the level of the most exalted upon the
broad plane of humanity - to make man the equal of man; but not to make the
creature of the State - the bodiless, soulless, and mystic creature called a
corporation - the equal of the creature of God."

He summarized his pleadings before the Supreme Court by saying, "Therefore,
I venture to repeat that the Fourteenth Amendment does not command equality
between human beings and corporations; that the state need not subject
corporations to the same laws which govern natural persons; that it may,
without infringing the rule of equality, confer upon corporations rights,
privileges, and immunities which are not enjoyed by natural persons; that it
may, for the same reasons, impose burdens upon a corporation, in the shape
of taxation or otherwise, which are not imposed upon natural persons."

------------snip---------

Now corporations will be telling the citizens of Santa Clara County how they
voted. And those same corporations will use the shield of corporate
personhood - once valiantly disputed before the Supreme Court by the
County's attorney - to withhold from the County's voters the right to "look
behind the curtain" at the corporate-owned software and computerized
processes that tabulate their vote. How sadly ironic.

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