Before this thread gets lost in the archives, I just wanted to let everyone know that: THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT "ONLINE DEMOCRACY" (WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AWHILE BACK) "WILL NOT WORK!!"
This is because, although aLL person(s) voted, all votes are sent to a central place "to be counted" ... "without paper trail". This would allow the "fox" (powers that be) to "watch (or in this case, own) the chicken coop" (the precious votes). And you want to extend this horrific concept to a global level?? OH!! Jingle Bells ... Jingle Bells .. Jingle all the way........... Global One World Government .... all of us subject to a "global president" .. conveniently, "DEMOCRATICALLY" voted into office with "Online Voting" ... courteously provided by Jeb Bush, Inc. 'Tis the season to be jolly, fa-la ..................... And this thing about "Corporate Constitutional Rights". First human beings get whacked with butts of rifles as "unlawful combatants" (which you know, ALL Americans citizenships will be reduced to eventually) .... and now this .. Corporations get elevated to "God created beings" with "Constitutional Rights". Sheesh ...... Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bit rushed, but will this do? http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15332 Which Corporation Owns Your Vote? By Thom Hartmann, AlterNet March 6, 2003 -----------snip------------- But in the November 2002 election, when some Florida voters pressed the touch-screen "button" for Bush's Democratic opponent, votes were instead recorded for Bush. "Misaligned" touch-screen voting machines were blamed for the computer-driven vote-theft, and when a losing candidate in Palm Beach sued to inspect the software of Florida's computerized voting machines, a local judge denied the petition, citing the privacy rights of the corporation that wrote the programs. -----------snip----------- Although there is a certification process for ensuring the honesty of votes tabulated by computerized, touch-screen voting machines, according to Spillane the system works "very much like Arthur Andersen in the Enron case." --------------------snip-------------- The <new voting> machines generate no paper trail that can be audited, and when voting machine companies have been challenged to produce audits of their vote or to disclose details of their software, they cite the privacy rights that come from corporations being considered "persons" in the United States. ---------snip--------- When the railroad suggested to the Supreme Court that the Fourteenth Amendment, which freed the slaves by guaranteeing all persons equal protection under the law regardless of race, had also freed corporations because they should be considered "persons" just like humans, the attorney for Santa Clara County, Delphin M. Delmas, fought back ferociously. "The shield behind which [the Southern Pacific Railroad] attacks the Constitution and laws of California is the Fourteenth Amendment," said Delmas before the Supreme Court. "It argues that the Amendment guarantees to every person within the jurisdiction of the State the equal protection of the laws; that a corporation is a person; that, therefore, it must receive the same protection as that accorded to all other persons in like circumstances." --------snip-------- The purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment, passed just after the Civil War, was clear, Delmas said. "Its mission was to raise the humble, the down-trodden, and the oppressed to the level of the most exalted upon the broad plane of humanity - to make man the equal of man; but not to make the creature of the State - the bodiless, soulless, and mystic creature called a corporation - the equal of the creature of God." He summarized his pleadings before the Supreme Court by saying, "Therefore, I venture to repeat that the Fourteenth Amendment does not command equality between human beings and corporations; that the state need not subject corporations to the same laws which govern natural persons; that it may, without infringing the rule of equality, confer upon corporations rights, privileges, and immunities which are not enjoyed by natural persons; that it may, for the same reasons, impose burdens upon a corporation, in the shape of taxation or otherwise, which are not imposed upon natural persons." ------------snip--------- Now corporations will be telling the citizens of Santa Clara County how they voted. And those same corporations will use the shield of corporate personhood - once valiantly disputed before the Supreme Court by the County's attorney - to withhold from the County's voters the right to "look behind the curtain" at the corporate-owned software and computerized processes that tabulate their vote. How sadly ironic. ------------message truncated---------- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/