Tomas,

I had a similar problem with WVO from a restaurant when I tried the
"foolproof recipe" allthough it worked fine with virgin oil. I had some
sort of success using the two stage acid based version with a recipe found
in the following website (but it requires titrating AND determination of
peroxide number): http://mars.wiz.uni-kassel.de/agt/biodiesel/rezept.html

Could you please explain to me what you mean with "adding lye/methanol
several times and removing the glyrein"?
I got another suggestion (not tried yet, but I will do it over the weekend)
to use FFA removal first (by adding water / lye after titration) and then
apply two stage process...


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Hello all

We have been testing Alecs Fool Proof process and find it to work after
several long and time consuming testings (adding lye/methanol several times
and removing the glyrein).

We have been trying to titrated the oil after the acid step but the results
seems to be very unreliable as for the last batch we ended up with results
between 9 and 16 g/lye/liter oil and the previous titrations in the same
range (on each batch we were doing 6 titrations). As mentioned before we
have very dirty oil (we belive so and the reults confirms it or ?). At all
the batches we have ended up with 5 - 6 g/lye/litre oil as Alec is talking
about 3.1 and 3.5 if oil is in doubth. We are meassuring the Ph with lacmus
paper ( I think we need to buy a ph meter)

We are using Avli 98-100% pure lye and 98 % methanol. These are working
fine
in single step process.

Alec say 3.1 g lye /litre oil do this mean 3.1+ 3.5 g which is the amount
of
lye used for virgin oil (3.5 g/liter) in total 6.6 g lye/litre oil which is
close to the amount we have to use today in order to have all the glycerin
removed.

Thanks for all your comments and advices in advance.

Best Regards from a + 15¡C Finland.

Tomas Johnsson






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