Tell the families digging through the mass graves for their relatives that we didn't do the right thing.
Eric --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eric, > > Do not worry, if US can get the right "American democracy" government > in place. US have secured close to its 25% need of the worlds oil resources > and the money was well spent. In that case you can definitely say that > US did the right thing for US. Who cares about the Iraqis? They have the > wrong religion and do not appreciate the American culture anyway. The > world is a better place for American actions, after Iraq. It is so afraid of > Americans, that it is a petty that US cannot benefit from the extra Biogas > production and use it for solving the Natural gas problem. > > Hakan > > At 02:32 PM 7/17/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >Actually, I agree that we should have had a formal war declaration. > > > >I DO think we did the right thing, and that the world is a better place > >for our actions in the past few months, but I think the methods by which > >we got to the decision to do it probably are suspect. > > > >It's an example of how violating the constitution "just a little bit" > >becomes a slippery slope that isn't recoverable. > > > >Abe Lincoln was the first to get away with a wholesale violation of the > >constitution by not letting the south secede peacefully. The whole > >concept of our government was a VOLUNTARY union of states. Once > >membership becomes irrevocable, there is no defense against bad > >government, and the country hasn't been the same since. > > > >Eric > > > > > >--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Bryan Brah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Eric, > > > > > > > > > > > > Taking your argument a step further, we wouldn't be in this war if the > > > executive branch had not usurped the power to declare war from the > > > legislative branch. Or rather if Congress had not allowed the President > > > to usurp its responsibilities. According to the Constitution Article > > > I, section 8, Clause 11 "(Congress shall have the power) To declare > > > War." If the question of a declaration of war had been put to a vote, > > > it would have failed miserably. Instead our congressional leaders > > > settled on a much weaker euphemistic "Joint Resolution for the > > > Authorization of the Use of Military Force." This is NOT the same as a > > > declaration of war, and allowed our congressmen to pussyfoot around the > > > actual issue of invading another sovereign nation. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will agree with you that we should not be funding "non-delegated" > > > federal programs, but even so their cost is miniscule compared to the > > > daily, weekly, monthly and eventually yearly cost of the Iraq > > > occupation. > > > > > > > > > > > > So you are right in a round-about way. Billions and billions of our tax > > > dollars would not be wasted fighting an unjust and illegal war had the > > > constitution been obeyed. > > > > > > > > > > > > -BRAH > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mtushmoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:21 PM > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [biofuel] Re: If you"re pro war, read this!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Kris Book <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.costofwar.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Since the war is paid for using federal dollars, and none of the > > > programs compared to the war cost are actually pograms that the > > > constitution delegates to the federal government, it seems to me that > > > we should be cutting all those non-delegated federal programs to pay > > > for the war, which is a power that actually DOES belong to the Federal > > > government. > > > > > > Our tax dollars wouldn't be being wasted if the constitution were > > > being obeyed. The federal government has no business in many of the > > > programs that it uses to meddle in our lives. > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge & refill kit orders to US & Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark & more. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
