It was clearly promoted as a fund raiser for veggievan. Any expectations beyond that was a miss on someone's part.
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excuse me? > > People invited to lend support to an effort are assessed as > > "wheeze[ing] off his juice" ?????????????????????????????? > > Surely I heard that wrong. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:22 AM > Subject: [biofuel] Re: Joshua Tickell is having an event in San Francisco > 7/26/03 > > > > Well, it was a advertised and promoted as a "fund raiser" for his > > upcoming movie. As such, it met it's billing. It was also designed > > to get non-biofuel folks aware of biodiesel. In that regard it was > > very successful. Other than the few individuals that expected to > > wheeze off his juice, I have read many good reports. We have too > > little number of folks in this movement to allow infighting and > > bickering . Look at the big picture, we all want biofuels to succeed. > > > > > > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >tag1les wrote: > > > > > > > > >I'm going to this tomorrow, I'll let everybody know how it went! > > > > > > > >And so? > > > > > > > >Best > > > > > > > >Keith > > > > > > He doesn't reply. But other people have commented in various > > places, > > > not too good it seems. :-( > > > > > > This is a cross-post from the berkeleybiodiesel list (other posts > > > I've seen were more caustic than this): > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >From: "Jon Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 21:58:04 -0000 > > > >Subject: [berkeleybiodiesel] Re: so how was the cell space event? > > > > > > > >Here are my thoughts on the cell space event. Warning: Not for > > the > > > >weak of heart. > > > > > > > >First of all, it was a really disappointing event. I was almost > > > >emotionally overwhelmed at how disappointed I was, and I went > > into it > > > >with as open a mind as I could muster. > > > > > > > >I will try to be specific. I am speaking for me and not Nick, > > though > > > >we largely agreed on everything about it. > > > > > > > >We went into it thinking it would be some sort of a community > > forum. > > > >It wasn't. It was a Josh Tickell info-mercial. He has made a > > short > > > >documentary called The Veggie Van Voyage which was a montague of > > news > > > >clips on his historic trip across the country (with his former > > > >partner Kaia edited 100% out), which is being sold on CD for $20 > > to > > > >raise money for a full length feature on BD that he hopes to make > > > >over the next couple of years. (And the clips named the > > production > > > >process as "extremly safe" and immediatly flashed to a picture of > > > >methanol and lye with no mention of the hazards of each). The > > > >separate promo piece for the future film looked bland. This is a > > > >film that hasnt even begun that Josh and Lindsay are calling an > > > >excellent film and the most important thing for the Biodiesel > > > >movement. Well, in defense of them, Lindsay probably did say > > that it > > > >was a fundraiser for Josh and I didnt really listen. I imagine > > they > > > >took in $2000 (less costs). I dont know how much of that James > > got > > > >for the SF coop. Throughout the time I attended the event, I just > > > >kept thinking, Josh, those 15 minutes are up. > > > > > > > >Nick and I went into it thinking there would be other literature > > on > > > >biodiesel, we were just going to supplement what Lindsay had > > already > > > >organized. I thought this because I thought there was tacit > > > >agreement that there has to be paper handouts at these types of > > > >events, that the organizer would make sure there was, and our > > contact > > > >with Lindsay was so tentative and last minute that she couldn't > > > >possibly be counting on us to provide it. > > > >Well, except for promo pieces for Josh Tickell (the book, the > > > >documentary we were shown that night, etc) there was nothing. We > > > >were it, and we didnt have much. So I do think its good that we > > > >attended the event. > > > > > > > >The event started at 7:00. Nick and I packed up and left at 9:00. > > > >(leaving literature there for people to take that Hope says was > > all > > > >taken.) There were still about 100 people there, including Dave, > > > >Randall, Kumar, Russ Teal. According to Hope, who showed up right > > > >after Nick and I left, she was not able to speak until after > > 10:15, > > > >to a croud of 15 people. She got about a minute I think she said. > > > >James of the fledgling SF coop likewise. The other players Im not > > > >even sure if they were introduced. I bring this up because I feel > > > >like it was insanely disrespectful of Lindsay Hassett to invite > > all > > > >these people to speak and then not even acknowledge their presence > > > >until after three hours of Josh Tickell and various "acts" (rap > > song > > > >on BD, etc). > > > > > > > >As far as I could tell, the only SF Biofuels Coop presence was > > James. > > > > > > > >The following I am saying as an individual, and am sending the > > same > > > >information to Lindsay as feedback in the spirit of cooperation > > and > > > >moving forward. This event was an ego showcase for > > Lindsay "Betty > > > >Biodiesel" Hassett and Josh Tickell. [Can't we all just use our > > real > > > >names?] IT DISRESPECTED THE AUDIENCE OF POTENTIAL ACTIVISTS BY > > > >TREATING THEM AS DONORS TO JOSH'S FILM PROJECT AND PASSIVE > > CONSUMERS > > > >OF BIODIESEL (insert my 'process not product' sphiel here). THE > > > >EVENING WAS GEARED TO ENTERTAIN MORE THAN TO INFORM. Lindsay was > > > >talking grassroots and coops but wasnt walking it by putting the > > > >people doing that forward. > > > > > > > >Positive stuff: > > > >Josh showed us his ABL, or American Biodiesel Locator, a new > > internet > > > >tool for locating biodiesel producers, coops, pumps, etc. It is a > > > >self-register system, so there is likely going to be inaccurate > > and > > > >out of date information on it, but it has potential. > > > >We met some nice people, such as Dave Buck of Happy Farms in > > Contra > > > >Costa County who has been using BD for years in his tractor. > > > >In talking with James of SF, we realized both groups are planning > > an > > > >event for Sept 11/12, and we could join forces on it. > > > > > > > >submitted by Jon Bauer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------------------------- > > > > > > > > > >Fields of Fuel FUNdraiser > > > > > > > > > >Acclaimed biodiesel expert and filmmaker Joshua Tickell will > > hold a > > > > >fundraiser for his upcoming feature documentary Fields of Fuel. > > > > >Tickell > > > > >will be joined by a host of other biodiesel personalities > > including > > > > >event M.C. Betty Biodiesel known in the Bay Area for her > > Biofuels 4 > > > > >Schools Program and Charris Ford, biodiesel activist and star > > of Rocky > > > > >Mountain Film Fest's winning environmental documentary, French > > Fries > > > > >to > > > > >Go. The FUNdraiser will be a compilation of short films, music > > and > > > > >skits on the subject of biodiesel, a fuel made from any type of > > > > >vegetable oil. > > > > > > > > > >Famous for his "Veggie Van USA Tours" in the late 1990's > > > > >(www.VeggieVan.org), Joshua Tickell has been working with > > biodiesel > > > > >fuel since he saw it on a farm in Germany in 1996. After two > > tours in > > > > >his Veggie Van and a book (From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank: The > > > > >Complete Guide to Using Vegetable Oil as an Alternative Fuel), > > Tickell > > > > >settled on making the film. "It's the only way to create a > > critical > > > > >mass around biodiesel," he says. > > > > > > > > > >Tickell will show his short film The Veggie Van Voyage; Charris > > Ford > > > > >will present French Fries to Go; Several local musicians will > > perform; > > > > >Tickell will give a biodiesel slide show; there will be a > > raffle of > > > > >cool prizes from local businesses, and a public forum to discuss > > > > >biodiesel. The goal of the benefit is to raise $20,000, enough > > for > > > > >the > > > > >film crew of Fields of Fuel, to complete their first leg of > > filming > > > > >through Europe. > > > > > > > > > >Tickets are available at the event or advance purchase online at > > > > >www.VeggieVan.org. 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