One wood fuel that I could think of as being a fire hazzard up here in NorCal is Manzanita(sp). It grows like weeds and in a forest fire the roots continue to burn. It has no value as either a construction wood nor is it a good wood for a wood stove as it burns too hot.
James Slayden On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, murdoch wrote: > The one I heard about was in Oroville, CA, USA (1 hour or so North of > Sacramento) and it came up because I was talking with someone about home > ownership there and fire concerns, among other things. He said that if > you > owned a bit of land, there were a couple of options as to keeping your > land > clear of debris. > > He pointed out to me a bit of wood that was of a certain type, and > mentioned > that it wasn't much good for firewood (BTU too low or something) and also > was > not much good for building (not at all strong enough) but that with the > advent > of this device into their community, homeowners now had a clear place to > get rid > of this wood. He said that, at this point, the machines and trucks which > would > come out to your place to cut and haul the wood would spend the night at > or near > this incineration facility, because this process of going to your house > and then > to the facility was firmly established. > > On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:51:42 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > >When you figure in the cost to fight forest fires and to > >rebuild after, biomass turned into electricity costs are > >looking better all the time. Not to mention, that if burned > >properly, atmospheric pollution could be greatly minimized, > >which would also lower health costs. I doubt if anyone will > >get subsidised for cleaning up the forests but, it is a > >good idea. > > > >I think that Murdoch is referring to the PMC Biomass > >"Agripower", which is a 225 KW Brayton cycle CHP (combined > >heat and power) unit which will cost around a half million > >dolars to purchase. The company claims that there is only a > >2 year payback if the operators have enough biomass to keep > >it running continuously and have a use for all that power. > >It shouldn't be too hard to set up semi trailers with huge > >battery banks to move the power from the woods to a place > >that can use the power. > > > >If this is true, then I for one would like to buy such a > >cheap utility company. > > > >kris book > > > >--- Heath Blount <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Looks, like all these are highly subsidized by PG&E, > >> which means the local > >> energy dollar leaves northern California for NYSE. Not > >> to mention the > >> relative inefficiency of Wood to electric generation. A > >> wood to hot water > >> boiler for heating building space is much more efficient. > >> > >> Heath > >> > >> >From: murdoch > >> > >> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: > >> biofuel@yahoogroups.com CC: > >> >biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: [biofuel] > >> >forest fires and using wood biomass as fuel Date: Thu, > >> 30 Oct 2003 09:08:03 > >> >-0800 > >> > > >> >http://www.covantaenergy.com/energy/biomass.php4 > >> > > >> >As I said a few months ago, I ran across this > >> wood-biomass-to-electricity > >> >plant north of Sacramento this summer and was told by > >> one local how clean > >> >it was, and how it allowed homeowners to have an option > >> for clearing their > >> >land of some wood not-suitable-for-firewood-or-building. > >> Later I learned > >> >that this was a few years old, but still, it seems > >> relatively obscure. > >> > > >> >As Southern California and Denver and others now > >> belatedly search for a > >> >better forest and fire policy, what I'd love to see is > >> not so much any one > >> >measure as a "cure-all" but use of measures such as this > >> in limited > >> >moderate ways, to help communities not only do a better > >> job with fire > >> >prevention and mitigation, but also to generate power > >> and make money. > >> > > >> >other links of interest that came up: > >> > > >> >http://www.calbiomass.org/county.htm > >> > > >> >(San Diego, San Bernadino, Orange, Los Angeles Counties > >> not listed! > >> >Riverside has only one entry. These are the five > >> disaster-area counties of > >> >the recent fires. If I'm not mistaken, San Bernadino is > >> the single biggest > >> >county in the US or the lower 48. Much of it is desert, > >> though certainly > >> >not all of it.) > >> > >> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >> Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you > >> forgot to sign in > >> enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! > >> http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > >> > >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >> Biofuels list archives: > >> http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > >> > >> Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list > >> address. > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! 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