>To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
>From: Jim Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:29:53 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fuel Quality Test for Small Producers
>
>Todd:
>
>My comment about testing was taken from a conversation with Dr. 
>Charles Peterson, Director of the BioFuel Lab at U of Idaho, Moscow. 
>Dr. Peterson flatly stated that the key issue for small biofuel 
>producers was the need to test each batch, that small producers 
>could not, typically, afford such tests.  He recommended that the 
>small producers join forces and create a "central" lab to test each 
>batch made by each producer if that fuel is to be sold.  If anyone 
>is attempting to sell untested biofuel, there is a risk that such 
>fuel -- off-spec fuel --could foul a diesel engine, its injectors 
>and filters.
>
>Further, if a producer sought product liability insurance, I am 
>reasonably certain that the carrier would insist on the testing of 
>each batch.
>
>As to labeling, how would anyone label non-tested, off-spec 
>biodiesel?  The term, "biodiesel" has a correct and scientific 
>meaning, that is a compound which has passed ASTM D 6751.  It is not 
>"biodiesel" unless it has been tested and has passed the test. 
>Petro diesel also has to pass its tests.  I understand that the B20 
>may have its own test.
>
>Testing, in my opinion, is critical to the success of the entire 
>biodiesel industry.  We need to be on par with the big producers of 
>diesel fuels.  We must be able to assure the buying public that 
>"our" biodiesel meets the standard of D6751.  The problem lies in 
>the cost of testing each batch.  Dr. Peterson's conclusion is that 
>testing could become economical if enough of the small producers 
>form a "coop" or some other business arrangement so that a sample of 
>each batch can be tested.  I agree with Dr. Peterson.
>
>Jim Miller
>
>Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jim,
>
> >4.  The test profile is there for a reason -- you do not truly have
> >biodiesel unless it passes the test.  You may have a compound which
> >will burn, but to mis-lable it as "biodiesel" would be illegal.
> >Civil liability could follow.
>
>That's a bit of a mis-correlation. I sure wouldn't want to put it in a
>storage drum and label it "maple syrup." And labeling it as "A Compound
>Which Will Burn" is equally misleading.
>
>Just because a sample may not be subjected to the costly tests and rigors of
>ASTM D-6751 doesn't mean that it's not biodiesel. It's just not a fuel that
>can be legally sold for road taxable use. And that's only because of
>"legislative legalities," not chemical "realities."
>
>Todd Swearingen


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