I would be curious as to what he thinks about a blood-for-oil campaign run by chicken hawks.
It seems like some people find it easy to put someone elses life on the line while they hide out and stay awol. Jeff From: "Fred Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Feeling Patriotic? My father-in-law tried that "I'm-a-vet-so-what-I-think-counts-more- than-what-you-think" garbage with me one time. Granted he did serve in WWII and I do appreciate it. However on the day that he pulled his "I'm-a-Vet" line on me I was ready to put it in perspective for him. This occurred during the Clinton "Oral office" incident. My father- in-law said that as a vet that "Draft-Dodging-Dirtbag should be tossed out of office!" I told him that I thought the whole affair was laughable at best but impeachment was an overreaction. Well, his opinion was that since he served his country that he put the time in so his opinion should count more than mine. To which I responed "How does that work, if you served you get to vote in elections more than once?" It made him think of what he was saying beyond the issue we were talking about for a moment. He now is very careful about bringing up political personalities. If his most hated liberal of the day does something that seems unsavory, a right-wing zealot gets exposed as a hypocrite. fred --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Sid > > >>In a message dated 1/4/2004 12:04:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Hello All: > >> > >>As a US Veteran (Purple Heart) I fully support your freedom of communicating > >>your perspective is speach or letters. l do not however, fully agree with > >>what you > >>wrote. > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>Clouston Energy Research, LLC > >>Sidney Clouston > > It's a bit puzzling. First, Gustl didn't write it, he forwarded it > (clearly marked as such). Jennifer Sellers wrote it. Second, of > course you're welcome to disagree, but then you should say why you > disagree, and perhaps offer some alternative view or information. > Otherwise there's no discussion and nothing goes forward. The only > apparent reason for your disagreement that you've offered is that > you're a US Veteran (Purple Heart). That's no reason at all, as Todd > said. Why would the opinion of a US veteran carry any special weight > in such issues? Especially on an international list like this one. > I'd say it's irrelevant. You admit something similar - a veteran > needn't necessarily be right, and needn't necessarily be wrong either: > > >... It would be wrong to think that any Veteran > >by virtue being a Veteran has all truth to say without being analyzed for > >valid aspects if any. Conversely, being a Veteran does not preclude > >any veracity. > > Just like anyone else. > > Anyway, many US veterans would agree with Jennifer Sellers, many say > similar things, write similar articles and post them on the Internet. > As Gustl did - Gustl is himself a US veteran. Would you fully agree > with this, for instance? (There are plenty more instances.) > > http://www.lefthook.org/Politics/Seidman3%20111103.html > An Interview with Stan Goff > Stan Goff knows better than most people about what really goes on in > the US military. He served from 1970 through 1996, for many years as > a Master Sergeant with the Special Forces and Delta Force and as a > military instructor at West Point. In the process of his military > career he was deployed to Vietnam, South Korea, Colombia, El > Salvador, Grenada, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, Peru, Venezuela, > Somalia, and Haiti. Retired, he is now an anti-imperialist activist > and founder of Bring Them Home Now (www.bringthemhomenow.org). He is > the author of Hideous Dream: A Soldier's Memoir of the US Invasion of > Haiti, as well as the forthcoming Full Spectrum Disorder. He lives in > Raleigh, NC. > [more] > > >It is in the interest of better understanding that I return comments. > > You haven't said anything yet except that you don't fully agree. > > Best wishes > > Keith > > > >Dear Fellows and Friends: > > > >It is in the interest of better understanding that I return comments. First > >off > >a correction in my name which if observed closely one would notice only > >one "y" in it as I spelled it. Please correct your records Mr. Swearingen. > > > > >Guess that's easy to understand Sydney. Your voice is but one of 260 some > > >odd million (in the US). There's bound to be a few people in such a lot who > > >think, believe and see things differently. > > > >Here I fully agree, as I learned in college philosophy of the many fallacies > >of > >reasoning one may be in error in. One fallacy is "Argumentum ad Hominem" > >(Latin for argument against the man). It would be wrong to think that any > >Veteran > >by virtue being a Veteran has all truth to say without being analyzed for > >valid aspects > >if any. Conversely, being a Veteran does not preclude any veracity. I > >suggest as > >many thousands of Philosophers against the many fallacies of reasoning, so we > > > >ought to examine the specific conclusions or premises for validity perhaps > >being > >weak or strong if valid at all. > > > > >However, being a veteran or having received a purple heart is not the > > >qualifiier of one stream of thought or another. There are, after all, > > >numerous veterans who echo the sentiments you disagree with. No doubt many > > >are also recipients of a purple heart..., or two. > > > >Where do I differ from your esteemed views? Will you please be specific? > > > >Best regards, > >Sid. > > > >PS I do like the Biodiesel concepts. > > > > >>In a message dated 1/4/2004 12:04:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Hello All: > >> > >>As a US Veteran (Purple Heart) I fully support your freedom of communicating > >>your perspective is speach or letters. l do not however, fully agree with > >>what you > >>wrote. > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>Clouston Energy Research, LLC > >>Sidney Clouston [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! 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