Yah...Zealots should scare just about anyone. But then again, I'll put a zealous Greanpeacer hanging from the anchor of an outgoing freight destined to dump its toxic waste in the North Sea over a RWASP (right-wing, anglo-saxon, protestant) hell bent on forcing the world to live by his or her code.
One serves the broadest interests of humanity. The other only a narrow corridor. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Further to which... > > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18259 > The Christian Taliban > > Best > > Keith > > > > > >Some really sick crap...... > > > > > >http://www.cdfe.org/ > > > > > >Pick a link. According to these asinigned zealots the sypmtoms are the cause > > >of the disease. > > > >Some of them may be zealots, but I think most of them are just... > >damn, the term that's used is "whores", but that's an abusive term > >for prostitutes and using it this way defames them: it implies > >dishonesty and carries contempt, which is unjust. Can't think of an > >apt term for these folks. "Whores" then, for now, with due > >reservation. > > > > >Think I'd rather bed down with the Taliban. At least their doctrine has some > > >assemblance of social order and construct other than exploiting anything and > > >everything for a buck. > > > > > >There are terrorists and then there are terrorists. > > > > > >Todd Swearingen > > >Appal Energy > > > >The Taliban is more honest - whatever their principles and actions > >might be (execrable in many ways), they at least hold to them because > >they believe in them, not because they're paid to. Though they did > >accept rather a lot of millions of dollars in US support... but you > >didn't see them spouting a lot of US propaganda as a result. I don't > >think they're any worse than Christian fundamentalist extremists or > >any other kind of fundamentalist extremists, maybe not as bad in some > >ways. ("Keith supports Taliban!" LOL!) > > > >Are the Taliban terrorists though? They did and do support Al-Qaeda, > >which is also a creation of US funding and support, and possibly more > >than that. The US is itelf a major supporter of terrorists, from the > >mujahideen to Fort Benning, and much more besides. ("Ah, but they're > >*our* terrorists." For now maybe...) But I don't think the Taliban > >itself has been guilty of terrorism. > > > >Whereas the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise and its ilk... > >"Since the late 1980's, CDFE has been at the center of the Wise Use > >movement. CDFE was originally founded by Alan Gottlieb July 4, 1976. > >The Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizen's Committee for the > >Right to Keep and Bear Arms were founded at the same time, and CDFE > >is still affiliated with both gun groups. According to the New York > >Times, Gottlieb shifted his focus to environmentalism when he > >realized the fundraising potential. The New York Times wrote, "For > >conservative fundraisers like Mr. Gottlieb, the enemies were Senator > >Edward M. Kennedy and the threat of gun control. But now Mr. Gottlieb > >has found a better target. 'For us' said Mr. Gottlieb...'the > >environmental movement has become the perfect bogeyman.'" CDFE is a > >501(c)3 tax-exempt organization." > > > >The Taliban are not whores. > > > >Are people like CDFE terrorists? I think so. This is terrorism: > > > >12/19/03 > >BOOK REVIEWS > >Eco-Imperialism: Green Power, Black Death > >Read the rave reviews of Paul Driessen's new book that exposes the > >green racist agenda to withhold malaria control and life-saving GMO > >crops from Africa and other developing nations. A horrifying account > >of green genocide. > > > >Inasmuch as info-toxins like this convince the gullible, which > >clearly they do, people's lives and livelihoods are destroyed en > >masse. The malaria-control bit is pro-DDT, which is an environmental > >disaster - great stuff for small-farmer communities entirely > >dependent on a healthy and functioning ecology. The pro-DDT lobbying > >is helping to hold up research on far more promising solutions > >without the unacceptable costs, such as this, yesterday: > >http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/24455/story.htm > >Studies Show Promise in Fight Against Malaria > > > >I've got a whole file of stuff like that, and what's obvious is that > >not nearly enough funding is going into it, despite the huge death > >toll and its crippling effect - there's more money in DDT. > > > >"Life-saving GMO crops"? The Africans don't think so, and withstood > >immense US pressure in the face of a famine to reject them. In India, > >this is what happens: > > > >"One video project currently underway is a series monthly interviews > >with cotton farmers accompanied by filming of their transgenic Bt > >Cotton crops as they have been growing over the current season. Even > >before the season is over, the videos are recording the changing mood > >of the farmers as it turns from enthusiasm to disappointment. Once > >the cotton is harvested (if there is still cotton to harvest, the > >results have been so poor so far) the video will be used as part of > >the campaign against genetically engineered crops. A preliminary > >report has already been prepared by three scientists and reported in > >New India Express. On the same day, The Hindu reported the suicides > >of three farmers." > > > >There have been thousands of farmer suicides because of this. That > >GMOs will help prevent famine in the 3rd World is a lie, and a > >murderous one. Rolling back health and environmental controls on > >hazardous chemicals by means of further paid-for lies is also > >murderous. > > > >But maybe that's not really terrorism - terrorism is indeed killing > >innocent civilians, but usually in pursuit of a political agenda, not > >just because you're paid to. We really do need a new term for this. > > > >"Wise Use" Thought for the Day: > > > >"'Precautionary Principle.' This misguided maxim argues that, based > >on the fear that something harmful may *possibly* arise, we should > >opt for technological paralysis." > >-- Center for Consumer Freedom > > > >For antidote, see: > >http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/index.cfm?issue_ID=2387 > >Corporate Campaign Against Precaution > > > >Center for Consumer Freedom > > > >The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest > >Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and > >tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts > >of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and > >groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny > >Culture - the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, > >anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best > >for you.' " > > > >CCF is one of the more active of several front groups created by > >Berman & Co., a public affairs firm owned by lobbyist Rick Berman. > >Based in Washington, DC, Berman & Co. represents the tobacco industry > >as well as hotels, beer distributors, taverns, and restaurant chains. > > > >The group actively opposes smoking bans and lowering the legal > >blood-alcohol level, while targeting studies on the dangers of red > >meat consumption, overfishing and pesticides. Each year they give out > >the "nanny awards" to groups who, according to them, try to tell > >consumers how to live their lives. > > > >Anyone who criticizes tobacco, alcohol, fatty foods or soda pop is > >likely to come under attack from CCF. Its enemies list has included > >such diverse groups and individuals as the Alliance of American > >Insurers; the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons; the American > >Medical Association; the Arthritis Foundation; the Consumer > >Federation of America; New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani; the Harvard > >School of Public Health; the Marin Institute for the Prevention of > >Alcohol and Other Drug Problems; the National Association of High > >School Principals; the National Safety Council; the National > >Transportation Safety Board; the Office of Highway Safety for the > >state of Georgia; Ralph Nader's group, Public Citizen; the U.S. > >Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); and the U.S. > >Department of Transportation. > > > >In a 1999 interview with the Chain Leader, a trade publication for > >restaurant chains, Berman boasted that he attacks activists more > >aggressively than other lobbyists. "We always have a knife in our > >teeth," he said. Since activists "drive consumer behavior on meat, > >alcohol, fat, sugar, tobacco and caffeine," his strategy is "to shoot > >the messenger. ... We've got to attack their credibility as > >spokespersons." > > > >In a May 11, 2002 San Francisco Chronicle article, CCF spokesman John > >Doyle responded to questions about nationwide radio ads put out by > >the group. He said the ads were meant to attract people to their > >website and "draw attention to our enemies: just about every consumer > >and environmental group, chef, legislator or doctor who raises > >objections to things like pesticide use, genetic engineering of crops > >or antibiotic use in beef and poultry." > > > >http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom > >Disinfopedia > > > >All the same, eh? Shoot the messenger, knife in our teeth. Just like > >CDFE's Ron Arnold, out to kill everyone with a sword and so on. Not > >just talk, not just a figure of speech. > > > >Best > > > >Keith > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
