Lye is not a denaturant, the ethanol can still be reclaimed.  To denature 
ethanol, liquids that have similar boiling points condensing points, that even 
distillation will be hard to remove, have to be used, like methanol, gasoline, 
and a few other things as well.  The denaturant used must not be readily remove 
from the ethanol, with common tools,  You still have to make the ethanol and 
that requires licensing / bonding even if it is denatured.    It used to be 
that rubbing alcohol was denatured ethanol, but, due to the licensing / bonding 
cost, it's now more cost effective to make isopropyl alcohol.

( From: Make Your Own Fuel )

For BATF, to consider ethanol to be denatured, you must use one of the approved 
formulas, such as:

Formula #1) To every 100 gal of ethanol add;
5 gal wood alcohol.

Formula #3A) To every 100 gal of ethanol;
5 gal methyl alcohol

Formula #4) To every 100 gal of ethanol;
1 gal gasoline 

Formula #18) To every 100 gal of ethanol of not less than 160 proof add;
2.5 gal of methyl isobutyl ketone ( or compound similar thereto ),
0.125 gal of pyronate ( or compound similar thereto ),
0.5 gal of acetaldol,
1 gal kerosene, or gasoline.

Formula #19) To every 100 gal. of ethanol of not less than 160 proof add;
4 gal of methyl isobutyl ketone, and
1 gal. of kerosene, deodorized kerosene or gasoline.

Have fun,

Greg H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marc Orion Cardoso 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 17:37
  Subject: [biofuel] Re: Theoretical Question



  you can get a small distillers permit if you have no criminal record, 
  it allows you to make up to 10,000 gallons of ethanol for fuel for 
  your own use. the fee is $25.00 of course ,this assumes that you are 
  in the Usa. if you arent, do it anyway as long as you denature it  
  immediatly with lye its no longer potable so it becomes a non issue .
  there is no law against making ethyloxide at least not yet.
  marc



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