making biodiesel via esterification/transesterification. You can use it to degrade tires, plastic, organic wastes and biomass in general into useable gases and liquid fuels.

The tough pill to swallow is the intense energy inputs and mechanical costs. But then again, recovering energy and reusing it is better than landfilling it.

Todd Swearingen

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so what are the advantages compared to "our" way?

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This is simple pyrolysis. One heats up any plant or amimal matter, in the absence of oxygen. Another term for the same process is distructive distillation. It produces a mixture somewhat like crude oil (fossil) The trick is to do it effeciently. See for example

         http://www.btgworld.com/technologies/pyrolysis.html

frag lag wrote:

http://www.schoolsite.utwente.nl/ct/profielwerkstukken/PWS/scheikunde/rijden_op_hout.doc/



A dutch web site  ,the name under the firest picture (top one of 3)

says raw biodiesel ??? looks more like dino to me...

part of the text
Het maken van biodiesel is geen koud kunstje. Vaste biomassa wordt bij hoge temperaturen (~ 500 oC) en in afwezigheid van zuurstof omgezet tot een gas dat afkoelt tot een vloeistof. Dit proces, pyrolyse, staat nog in de kinderschoenen.

rough translation:
Making biodiesel isn't easy , solid biomass is gassed at 500 degrees celcious (in a vaccume) that cools to a liquid, this process called pyrolyse is still in it's infantcy.

any idea what they are talking about?
(btw , utwente in the link means university of twente)

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