Readers,

Mr. Allen brings up interesting points regarding
formal education vs distance learning.  

Counterpoint - I think that JTF Biofuel is a "distance
learning experience" and provides benefits to many
readers; sometimes providing more tools than formal
education, i.e. the gentleman in Greece seekind
advice.

Point - I don't know how to measure the legitmacy of
distance learning especially in the hard sciences. 

Counterpoint - However, I would not want to limit an
opportunity for someone eager to learn.  This is the
wonderful nature of the internet and explosion of
information.  It goes beyond the walls of structured
academia. 

Point - Example, my friend's father was a man in rural
parts of Honduras in the 1960s.  He did not have
access to transporation. Only mail.  He obtained his
degree via a humble correspondence school he read aout
in a US magazine.   He went on to become Mayor of his
village and built roads, bridges, schools, houses,
because the "degree" gave him the confidence.

I think that man and his distance learning
correspondence school did a lot more than many with a
formal "in the schoolhouse" education.  

Conclusion:
I agree with Mr. Allen that we should be prudent in
our assessment of distance learning but combine this
with introspecton on an individual's talent, intent
and reasoning for furthering one's education. We
should also consider their physical, psychologial or
financial limitations and/or attributes.

Have A Prosperous 2005

Phillip Wolfe

--- bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://www.allengineeringschools.com/featured/bachelors-engineering.php
> 
>   I can't speak for any of the listings but
> realistically how do you 
> learn or show competency for laboratory work and
> other hands on skills 
> through online experience?  I would be very
> suspicious of a chemistry 
> degree learned solely on line.  Maybe engineering
> would be different.  
> 
> Phillip Wolfe wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone have knowledge of legitimate distance
> >learning programs in BA in Civil Engineering and or
> >other Engineering Programs?  Also include grants or
> >scholarships. I heard that Case-Western in
> Wisconsin
> >offers a Masters in Engineering Management.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>      Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistry
>      http://ozarker.org/bob
> 
> 
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> expression;
> this right includes freedom to hold opinions without
> interference
> and to seek, receive and impart information and
> ideas through any
> media and regardless of frontiers.
> 
> Article 19 of The Declaration of Human Rights,
> adopted by the
> United Nations General Assembly,10 December 1948:
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