Keith,
What we often forget in all the discussions, is that US no longer
have a financial case against Iraq. No weapons found that could pose
a threat against US, also means that US have no legal case for
covering their war cost with oil from Iraq.
But they didn't have a legal case for the war (invasion, occupation,
whatever) in the first place. Did they ever have a financial case
against Iraq? I mean a real case? Surely not one that could stand up
to any kind of examination.
But you're right, it's a good point.
They are probably right that Iraq might be better of without Saddam,
we do not know yet, but that does not mean that they can get the
costs refunded for removing him. US have no rights to the oil or any
profits and they might instead have sole financial responsibilities
for the destruction that followed their unilateral decision. The
only way to share the finance for this kind of actions, is through
UN.
... which they've spurned.
It will be a costly adventure for the American tax payer, or US have
to resort to try dictatorial and illegal behavior in Iraq.
I gather that's the idea, digging in for the long haul, it doesn't
look much like they're planning on paying rent.
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43840/
Why the US will not leave Iraq
It is unlikely, because the time has past, when it was possible to
maintain conquering occupations and make a profit from them. US have
paid for the occupations by Israel, but even if it is small
territory it cost a fortune. After all, maybe the world is slowly
improving and the bullies can be made accountable for their deeds.
US is the only military super power left, but might have lost its
position as leading financial super power over Iraq.
I think military superpowers are obsolete. I think any kind of
superpower is obsolete except the "other" one:
"There may still be two superpowers on the planet: the United States
and world public opinion." - The New York Times
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/23479/
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030414&s=schell
The Other Superpower | Jonathan Schell
The trouble is I think they're quite likely to think the same way Mr
Pritikin is thinking - except for Mr Cheney, who might not want
Halliburton to have to face Mr Pritikin's questions.
Regards
Keith
Hakan
At 11:42 AM 2/9/2005, you wrote:
Hello Mike and Mike
Hi Mike,
"It is no wonder the rest of the world has lost all respect for
our country (speaking to the American list members)."
I agree:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/050207/ids_photos_en/r
2706473732.jpg
LOL! I think they don't like him a lot. A caricaturist with a future.
I only wish that the photo was taken in the States to demonstrate
our own discontent as we begin to "really" pay for the war with
the upcoming fiscal budget.
Mike
Yes... but what do you make of this (croos-post)? Are a lot of
Americans thinking (?) this way, d'you reckon?
"These [Iraqi oil] profits rightfully belong to the American
People. All the tax money that has been spend on this war should be
paid back to the American taxpayers by the new Iraqi government
through the sale of oil."
:-(
That's go down real well in Falluja and Sadr City, eh? Win over
lots of hearts and minds I'm sure.
Regards
Keith
From: "Harry Pritikin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 07:53:27 -1000
Subject: [Bioenergy] IRAQI OIL
Aloha All,
What's happening to the Iraqi oil? How is pumping it? Who is
selling it and reaping the profits and who are they selling it
to?? I have a friend who has an acquaintance through his sailing
club. This guy works for a tanker company based in India. He said
that his company could only get contracts to ship oil out of Iraq
if they agreed to take to China!
Ever since the U.S. ousted Sadam you never hear about oil. Before
they ousted Sadam you always heard about the fears that the wells
and pipelines would be sabotaged. Now you hear nothing. During
the U.S. occupation, if there was no government entity, who is
getting the money for the oil being pumped? How much is being
pumped? Why hasn't there been any news with this information?
Is it because president Bush is telling the people of the U.S.
there is an oil shortage and we must drill in the arctic to reduce
our consumption of "foreign oil" while all the while U.S. oil
companies are pumping Iraqi oil and selling it to China and
pocketing the profits??
These profits rightfully belong to the American People. All the
tax money that has been spend on this war should be paid back to
the American taxpayers by the new Iraqi government through the
sale of oil. But as yet, no one that I know of even knows who is
profiting from the sale of this oil and who it's being sold to.
Anyone out there have any facts??
Mahalo, Harry
Harry M. Pritikin (RA) Buyer's Agent
Kona-Kohala Real Estate UPdate
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
Cell: 808-989-3491
Anti-Fossil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just received this from my father, with no references, of course, to
verify any of the numbers contained within. However, I do know him to be an
honest, and trustworthy man. So, while I cannot vouge for the validity of
the specifics of this post, I can, without hesitation, say that if my father
wrote it, and sent it to me, I'll stand by it.
The following goes to the core of what is wrong with the "alleged"
leadership of this country. It is no wonder the rest of the world has lost
all respect for our country (speaking to the American list members). The
hypocrisy revealed here makes me angry. It is absolute insanity for elected
officials to be pampered for life like this when the rest of the country,
and indeed the world, are facing issues like hunger, unsafe drinking water,
war, etc., etc.???
That's enough from me,
<snip>
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