Hi, Thanks for the response. I am familiar with Bearden and Maxwell, as well as Hyperdimentional Physics ala Hogland. Aetherial Theory is being worked on all over the world. The impacts will be tremendous. The work in Russia on Torsion Waves is also quite impressive. Dr. Bruce DePalma created the simple yet impressive "spinning ball" experiment as well as his own "over unity" device called the N-Machine. I am wondering if anyone is familiar with Faraday's Homopolar Motor. Does it produce "extra" energy? Thanks chuck
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:23:59 -0500 From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yo Chuck, I think it comes from the ratio of output power to input power. So 10 watts out for one watt in would give 10/1 = 10. Some devices are giving 200 times the input for the output. I believe the triple coated beads of Patterson give such a figure. One of the tenets of science is that the experiment must be reproducible. Patterson's device was checked by three top-flight labs by building the device from scratch using Patterson's design and his beads which he supplied. The labs all got the same result, a large output figure, but none were able to figure out why or how the devices were working. They just work. I don't know if Patterson himself knows exactly how they work. Inventors use intuition and trial and error a lot. He is a chemist, retired from Dow. I've heard of Searle, an Englishman I believe. But DePalma is a new name to me. Of course, we need to always acknowledge Nikola Tesla who was way ahead of everyone. I am reading a biography about him. He was/is an amazing genius, perhaps even moreso than Einstein. He built his machines and ran tests on them, all in his mind. He could make adjustments and retest, all without ever building the device. When he finally did build a device, it was not only a finished product, but one never conceived by anyone else. His professor told him that no one would ever build an AC motor. Tesla did this and a lot more. He felt he could do anything he wanted with electricity. Over unity doesn't explain where the energy is coming from, of course. That is still being hashed out, (google Tom Bearden)even as intrepid inventors build machines that are somehow tapping into this tremendous energy field that is everywhere. It appears that if this energy (aka the ether) was not present, we would not be present either. It is easy to forget that we are built of atoms and are subject to all the unseen forces in the universe. This is a fascinating idea (tapping into the energy of the ether) that seems to be producing results. The Japanese are reported to be the world leaders in this field. It is easy to see why the interest is so intense there. Here in the US of A, there seems to be an effort to make this field of endeavor something beneath "real" science, whatever real science is supposed to be. You could be labeled as gullible or worse for even bringing up the subject. Remember that for five years after the Wright Brothers flew at Kittyhawk, the New York Times called it a hoax. The magazine Scientific American also took a dim view of the Wright Brothers. So the Wright Brothers went to France where they were greeted as heroes. Only then did they get the respect they deserved here in the US. Pioneers are almost always castigated by "experts". There always seems to be an entrenched group who want to preserve the status quo, regardless of the cost. We have our retro government in Wash DC which is denying reality. Next year the Toyota Prius loses its tax credit of $2000 while the Hummer keeps its $25000 credit. Go figure. Do you think they would be the least bit interested in an over-unity device? Their only interest is to discourage it everyway that they can. Even making biodiesel in your own garage for your own use is likely to be discouraged if it ever gets to be more than an annoyance to Big Oil. Sorry for talking too much. Best wishes, D. Mindock _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/