Hakan,

I just joined the list a couple of days ago, so I must have missed
your earlier comments.

Cheers
Bill

On Apr 11, 2005 2:24 PM, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> The material support from US (lend lease), was absolutely
> pivotal to defeat Germany and thereby also the US industrial
> workers. This is something that I acknowledge and also said
> earlier in the discussion. The fighter air war, was won by both
> the British technology and pilots. The terror bombing strategy
> and technology was invented and developed by the Germans
> and dependent again more on the industrial workers than the
> pilots skills and US was pivotal.
> 
> Europe paid its dues for the pivotal US industrial support,
> both monetary and by favor US corporate activities in Europe.
> We can take this to an other level and look at the reasons,
> plus the power groups in WWII, but it would be too long
> for me at the moment.
> 
> Hakan
> 
> 
> At 01:08 AM 4/11/2005, you wrote:
> > > The US involvement in the fighting in Europe
> > > was not pivotal to the outcome.
> >
> >There's no question that the Soviets did the lion's share of fighting
> >and defeating the German Army. However, leaving aside lend-lease
> >shipments, there's one area in which the involvement of the Western
> >Allies (the US and UK) was pivotal to the defeat of Germany, and that
> >was the Air war, and the bombing campaigns. Richard Overy, in his book
> >"How the Allies Won" (if I'm recalling the title correctly) makes that
> >case rather well.
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >On Apr 9, 2005 8:19 PM, bmolloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Rick,
> > >             Good to hear from you. I think we're at cross purposes here. 
> > > My
> > > sole concern re US losses in WW2 was to underline one point: total 
> > > American
> > > dead in the Pacific campaign under General MacArthur as supreme commander
> > > were many times fewer than in the European theatre under Eisenhower.
> > > Regards,
> > > Bob.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Littrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
> > >
> > > > Dear Bob,
> > > >
> > > > With respect to the US contribution to the European theater consider
> > > > that at Stalingrad the German losses were 300,000 and the Russian
> > > > 400,000 and Stalingrad was a battle that the Russians won!  At Kursk the
> > > > Germans lost 100,000 killed and wounded and the Russians 250,000 killed
> > > > and 600,000 wounded.  It was the largest armored battle prior to the
> > > > 1967 Arab - Israeli war. The US involvement in the fighting in Europe
> > > > was not pivotal to the outcome.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> 
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