10-30 range is what I have been told, for good restaurant fryer oil cones.
Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc www.biofuels.ca on 5/21/02 12:17 PM, Hall, Edward C. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know what regular off the shelf commercial paper filter cones > are rated at filter wise (how many micron)? > Thanks, > Ed > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:11 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips? > > > Very nice post from Ed Beggs to the vegoil-diesel group on filtering > WVO. Enjoy! > > Best > > Keith > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:20:56 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [vegoil-diesel] WVO filtering tips? >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> A few comments on this rig: >> >> A lot of contraption for doing a bit of filtering. >> >> Get the restaurant to put the oil back in the containers they get it in >> after it is cool enough not to be a problem. >> >> If these are translucent poly, put them in the sun for a few hours on a hot >> sunny day (it'll work as well as the drums), and in a few hours the sun > will >> have it hot enough to pour through a filter. (Needs to be about 140F) That >> is the safest and easiest way to collect and heat oil in a warm climate. I >> have measured temperatures this high in translucent poly jugs after several >> hours on a summer day in the sun. The plastic is thin and can't handle much >> more than that, so placing back into the cardboard box the oil jugs >> originally come in, before lifting and pouring, would be good idea for > safer >> handling. Or use the pump. >> >> We also have a very good, and inexpensive hand operated plastic transfer >> pump available that will handle chemicals as well as oil. I have not posted >> it yet, but will put on our site soon. >> >> Pumps on both up and down strokes. Fast and easy for those on a limited >> budget that don't want to buy the electric pump. >> >> ----- >> >> Decant into filter cone. >> >> ---- >> >> Use. >> >> Discard the jug or send it for recycling. >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> I started out using those bag filters, and built a nice stand out of >> plywood, tall enough to put a metal pail under. >> >> Cleaning them out got to be a pain. Even took them to the carwash one > night >> in frustration, and pressure washed them in the car mat holders. That >> worked, but left a bit of a slippery film on the floor - not good. Just a >> nuisance, overall, so stopped using them a long time ago. >> >> >> Then we went to a few different pumps and filters - hydraulic pump and >> filters, a stainless restaurant oil recycling machine, etc. Really fancy >> ideas on filtering, and it cost us some money. >> >> Guess what... >> >> Paper filter cones are best, and the ones we have filter down to as low as >> 0.5 microns. The little transfer pump with the right kit on it works fine, >> for both filtering and for filling the tank. >> >> Our machines, bag filters, hydraulic pumps, cartridge filters, most of the >> steel drums, and even the old diesel fuel pump from a service station that >> we picked up, are all sitting unused. Fortunately, we scrounged all this >> stuff very cheap, so not a lot of dollars invested, and we will get most > or >> all back on resale (anyone want to buy it after reading this???? I > thought >> not! Well, the pumps are nice if anyone wants a nice pump for higher volume >> use). >> >> Save yourself a lot of trouble and mess. Collect in the jugs. Heat by some >> SAFE means. Filter with these paper cones. That works for anyone that is >> using a normal amount of oil. If you are using big volumes, maybe do >> something else, but we run three vehicles with this setup and it works very >> well. We use two drums as well, one for heating, and another for clean >> storage of filtered oil. The oil is pre-settled a few weeks in the jugs it >> came in, then into the heating drum. >> >> BE CAREFUL HEATING! If you can't use the sun and are going to use immersion >> type heater, heating element, etc. the surface temperature of the element >> can easily be higher than the flash point of the oil. If the oil goes below >> the level of the element and the element is still on and hot, you will have >> a FIRE. Also do not heat oil that has much water in it, and heat up >> slowly,especially if you plan to heat above BP of water. The water under > the >> oil can be heated to steam and will then suddenly erupt violently, spewing >> hot oil everywhere! Wear appropriate gear, keep a fire blanket and a fire >> extinguisher at hand, and never leave unattended. >> >> Solar is safest if you can do it that way. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Edward Beggs, BES, MSc >> www.biofuels.ca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------- >> >> RE: Pump - most transfer pumps made for diesel fuel will not handle the >> higher viscosity of vegoil for very long and the motor will burn out. Also, >> a transfer pump that is made for water needs to be fitted with the oil >> resistant kit, otherwise the impeller and seals will let go in short order, >> if pumping hot oil. >> >> ------ >> >> Two drums of oil strapped onto a utility trailer behind a "POS Chevette" is >> a fair bit of weight for the brakes on that car - be aware of the need to >> stop - pulling for a diesel is easy, but they will pull a lot more than the >> brakes can deal with! >> >> >> >> >> on 5/21/02 12:39 AM, craig reece at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Check out this link on the Infopop Board (aka the Maui Board:) >>> >> http://biodiesel.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=465094322&f=166094322 >> &m=96430 >>> 49815 >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> lorilee415 wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, I'm wondering if people have tips for pre-filtering waste veggie >>>> oil? Greasel sells .5 micron filters which trap a whole lot. >>>> >>>> The oil we are getting is pretty dirty and has "anti-foaming agents" >>>> (silicate/silicone?) in it. We used a 12 volt pump to pump it once >>>> and got salad dressing (it emulsified and took forever to filter). >>>> >>>> I'd rather avoid heating the oil before filtering. I'm in Northern >>>> California so don't have to deal with super cold weather. >>>> >>>> Please send your clever solutions! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >>> ADVERTISEMENT >>> >>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! 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