Folks, I'm curious to know what your experiences are with the National Biodiesel Board (www.nbb.org).... Relevant? Effective? Good to work with? How could it be improved? Etc.
Thanks! Andrew Hoppin N Space Labs, Inc. Vizualize Your Business [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212.226.4550 (office) 646.221.5602 (mobile) 158 Lafayette St. 2nd Floor NY, NY 10013 ---------------------------------------------------- The Biofuel Business Development Project http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact On the Long-Range Future of Humanity > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Hoppin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:02 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com; biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Large and Small, All on the Same Team-- Was Re: more info on > the NBB and the soy subsidy > > > Thanks for the feedback Keith. Without passing judgement on > World Energy since I haven't done the research (I'll go read up > on their conduct now-- thanks for the links), my point is merely > that we need to support people and companies and institutions > based on their integrity, actions and demonstrable potential to > succeed at furthering responsible energy production and > consumption, and NOT on the basis of their SIZE. I think there > is room for small and large producers, and for them to work together. > > Which leads me to this: if World Energy does not agree with this > perspective, then why not? Do you think it is the individuals > involved being shortsighted, or is it simply a reality of the > kind of business they're trying to build that makes small > producers more of a threat than a help? Or could they be > authentically concerned that a small producer making some mistake > in production will sully the image of biodiesel? Other > possibilities? Regardless, if you can identify what the root of > their problem is, then whether that root cause seems silly or > not, and regardless of who is responsible for it, perhaps we can > address the root cause and inspire World Energy to be a team > playter. No bias or policy is intractible in my opionion if it > fundamentally doesn't make sense, so let's take a look at it. In > my opinion, it is worth it for us to unilaterally take on this > extra work in order to earn the chance to bring as many > stakeholders as possible in this community into alignment. This > will ultimately empower us all. > > Cheers, > Andrew > > ---------------------------------------------------- > The Biofuel Business Development Project > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ > Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact > On the Long-Range Future of Humanity > > > Message: 12 > > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:23:08 +0900 > > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: more info on the NBB and the soy subsidy > > > > Hello Andrew > > > > >I'm would prefer to see a decentralized industry of small producers as > > well, > > >but my bias is that if we're really going to make a near-term > > difference in > > >our world in terms of energy security and environmental protection and > > >public health with biodiesel, we need to support any and all > > companies that > > >are willing to produce and distribute biodiesel, small and large. > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Andrew > > > > Um, at the cost of having homebrewers dispensed with by means of a > > load of BS about us being nothing but a peril who'll bring it all to > > naught unless we're controlled? Or at least kept firmly in our place > > (our own backyards)? Though we can be useful... Check back and you'll > > see that that's basically what Mr Noyes of World Energy was saying. > > He was asked how many times? Three? Four? - to substantiate his > > claims that substandard-spec homebrew had caused widespread problems > > and industry had had to clean up the mess after us. He evaded the > > question each time. He can't substantiate it because it's BS. Not the > > only thing he evaded. If you think that will at least stop him making > > such unsubstantiated claims, even if he can't quite bring himself to > > withdraw them, don't hold your breath. > > > > Noyes, and others like him, couldn't cope with what we actually are > > and what we do, as opposed to his patronising idea of us. Have a look > > at how he handled the possibility of collaboration with us, > > laughable. It's on his terms or nothing, just like the other World > > Energy guy who wasted our time with this talk. We're more useful than > > these people, and it's them who make it an either-or question, not us. > > > > We're not against industry, that would be foolish, but there's > > industry and then there's industry. It's not a case of small vs > > large, there's room and need for both, as you say. Some of the big > > companies are just fine, no problem at all working with them. But > > frankly I think the world needs the likes of World Energy like it > > needs a hole in the head. > {snip} Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
